CPR on the td pass from Lanning to Lazard...

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I went through 7 pages waiting for someone to point it out. Took until page 16 apparently. Lol

The comment was a direct compliment to Lazard. The follow up to this was something. To the effect of "anytime you throw it his way, it's a safe throw."

Doesn't change the fact that it's time for a new HC, but this is literally pages upon pages of people going off on nothing.

Bull ****. Even if the comment isn't as critical as some may think it is out of context, it speaks to the overall attitude and culture of the program, and the reason why QB after QB regresses under CPR. It was a great play that was worth complimenting in public, and instead he gives his young QB no credit because he wants to discourage those types of plays. Well guess what, those are the types of throws and plays that great football teams make.
 

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I am no Rhoads supporter, but coaching up QBs does involve teaching between a good outcome and a good play. It was a great outcome and a great play by Lazard. A good play by Lanning? In good offenses with good players , that is a good play. We don't know yet if Lanning or Lazard execute that at a high enough rate, but let's hope they will with a new staff.
My god, that thow was against Nick Orr who gave up most of the passing yardage for the night. It was a mismatch.
 

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Bull ****. Even if the comment isn't as critical as some may think it is out of context, it speaks to the overall attitude and culture of the program, and the reason why QB after QB regresses under CPR. It was a great play that was worth complimenting in public, and instead he gives his young QB no credit because he wants to discourage those types of plays. Well guess what, those are the types of throws and plays that great football teams make.

Totally agree.

I've been complaining for years about how we don't throw deep and stretch the field vertically. I've wondered why we are so afraid to throw the ball up and let our big group of WR's show their talent and go up and get them. No wonder opposing defenses can play everyone up on the line against us. We are SO easy to defend, and everyone we play knows it.

It isn't the QB's fault at all, just as I kinda figured, but I'm glad I heard it from the horses mouth today. We all owe Sam Richardson a HUGE apology IMO. We all saw the true Sam IMO in his first game at Kansas. He was a gunslinger in that game coming off the bench and whipping the ball all over the place.

Since then he has regressed big time under Rhoads, and now we all know why. And he will do it to Lanning too, and this TCU game was a prime example of it already occurring. IMO he should be fired immediately, but I know that won't happen. But I don't know if we can afford Rhoads' coaching methods to be screwing up more of our players as the rest of the weeks go by? I don't think we can.

If you aren't supposed to make that throw as a QB, then you need to takeaway about half of Brett Favre's career TD passes, and probably close to half of Randy Moss' career TD catches as well. Watch Baylor or TCU and they are constantly throwing it up deep and letting their guys make plays on the ball.

If Rhoads isn't gone after this season, I see no reason for Lazard, or any other WR to stick around here any longer. Or any QB for that matter. Rhoads is ruining them. Plain and simple. He has ruined every QB that he's coached here. It all makes so much sense now.
 

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OK.

Did we also play Lanning after that? Or not punt from there territory? I hope both those are true as well. I'd feel a lot better about CPR then.:jimlad:
Those things aren't related to peoe overreacting about this one comment. CPR is done, period, but this one particular comment has little to nothing to do with it.


Bull ****. Even if the comment isn't as critical as some may think it is out of context, it speaks to the overall attitude and culture of the program, and the reason why QB after QB regresses under CPR. It was a great play that was worth complimenting in public, and instead he gives his young QB no credit because he wants to discourage those types of plays. Well guess what, those are the types of throws and plays that great football teams make.

Again, your reading that with your other thoughts and not taking it at face value.

I don't really care, react however you want, but that was nothing to get worked up over in a season full of things to get worked up over.
 

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I just watched the presser and it does not sound near as bad when he's talking. I'd suggest watching the presser before making judgement.

I went through 7 pages waiting for someone to point it out. Took until page 16 apparently. Lol

The comment was a direct compliment to Lazard. The follow up to this was something. To the effect of "anytime you throw it his way, it's a safe throw."

Doesn't change the fact that it's time for a new HC, but this is literally pages upon pages of people going off on nothing.

Lazard had 8 inches on that guy and was in single coverage. That throw should be made frequently (its called exploiting a mismatch, watch other teams do it to us). To even come close to implying that its a throw that should not be made speaks to why this offense has been so horrible for 7 years.
 

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I now feel really bad for SBR, because it's clear he's been ruined by this coaching staff. I remember when he first took snaps as ISU QB - he wasn't afraid to throw and make plays, and he made some pretty damn good plays. Now? He's just a burned out husk of his former self. Been coached to be afraid to make the big play. A true Greek tragedy.

It's time for Rhoads to go.
 

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Again, your reading that with your other thoughts and not taking it at face value.

I don't really care, react however you want, but that was nothing to get worked up over in a season full of things to get worked up over.

No I'm not.
 

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I now feel really bad for SBR, because it's clear he's been ruined by this coaching staff. I remember when he first took snaps as ISU QB - he wasn't afraid to throw and make plays, and he made some pretty damn good plays. Now? He's just a burned out husk of his former self. Been coached to be afraid to make the big play. A true Greek tragedy.

It's time for Rhoads to go.

Agree. So why not get rid of him right now before he does anymore damage?

I was not for firing him before the season was over, but I've changed my mind completely. If I were the AD and I heard Rhoads' comment today about how that pass shouldn't have been thrown, I think I'd have to make a change immediately.

Iowa won against Illinois by making throws like this at least 3 times in critical situations that I can remember. Illinois on 3 different occasions in that game had Iowa in 3rd and 20+ yds to go for a first down. CJ threw it deep on all 3 and let his WR make the play and they came down with the catch on all 3. None of them were really "open", but CJ let them make a play on it.

I'm sure Rhoads would have run up the middle and settled for the punt in those situations to play it safe. And then he would have lost the game too. He needs to go, and the sooner the better for this program and it's players IMO.
 

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This comment is idiotic on so many different levels. Let's pretend it was a bad throw (it wasn't). What purpose could possibly be served by saying this publicly? If you saw something, point it out to him in film. It's pretty easy to see what you hope to accomplish by saying this-- "I screwed up and didn't play him more, I have no excuse, so I'm going to make some **** up in an attempt to save face."

Second, if you are Lanning, you've come in, made a good play, and this is how your coach treats you? Sam can perform at the level he's performed at and get nothing but support from the coaches, and CPR finds fault in Lannings one throw, that just so happened to go for a touchdown?

The guy doesn't know what he's doing. My season tickets will sit empty until their is a change. This program is being run with complete incompetence and this statement today might as well be marked with an Exhibit A sticker. I just feel bad for the kids that have made a commitment to this program that are constantly put in a position to fail.
 
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Well, time to start scrubbing that autograph off of the Nike ISU football, don't want any part of that man in my house after that statement, he certainly wants us to lose.
 

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Another note on the strategy of the back shoulder throw: YOU THROW THE ******* THING WHEN THE GUY ISN'T OPEN. IF HE WAS OPEN YOU WOULD THROW IT OVER THE TOP
 

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I now feel really bad for SBR, because it's clear he's been ruined by this coaching staff. I remember when he first took snaps as ISU QB - he wasn't afraid to throw and make plays, and he made some pretty damn good plays. Now? He's just a burned out husk of his former self. Been coached to be afraid to make the big play. A true Greek tragedy.

It's time for Rhoads to go.

I'm surprised how many people just figured this out today. It has been obvious for years that is what is going on. Every QB under Rhoads has had the same progression once they get a couple starts. Richardson is not and has never been the problem. The coaching is the problem.
 

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I'm surprised how many people just figured this out today. It has been obvious for years that is what is going on. Every QB under Rhoads has had the same progression once they get a couple starts. Richardson is not and has never been the problem. The coaching is the problem.

Interestingly, it's not just QBs. I can't name one guy who I would say got markedly better in their tenure other than maybe Knott and Klein.
 

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A quarterback has to take some risks to win at ISU, says everyone but Rhoads.
 

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