David Ubben Thinks ISU starts 3-0

CloneFan4

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Holy man, we are that close to duck season! Woot for opening weekend during a away game!

Now I am really excited with the game this weekend and knowing that! I am not sure what to do with all of the joy as well!

Same thought went through my head. Still gotta get the decoys and blind ready and do some scouting. Will be dead tired on opening day though. No way I'm gonna miss the UCONN game. Hopefull we're up big at half so I can turn it off and get some sleep.
 

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Northwestern has had at least 100 yards rushing against Iowa since back to 2005 in every game and their QB's have carved up the Iowa secondary. Hell... if you are the ISU staff why wouldn't you take a look and see if you can identify something there?

You are on to something as far as running the ball. In 2008-2010, Northwestern has averaged just 2.6, 2.9 and 3.1 yards per carry against Iowa. Not a lot of success handing it off or running it otherwise. The issue has been they have converted on the 3rd and 5, 3rd and 4, 3rd and 7 type situations enough via the pass that they can keep running it and staying out of bad situations. Usually teams just give up running on Iowa with the scant yards per carry averages the Wildcats have gotten. Smart move by NU as it serves to slow down the pass rush some and keeps them in 3rd and reasonable yardage, which the Cats have been proficient at converting.

The greater failure of Iowa against Northwestern has been on offense. Iowa has been held less than what Northwestern allowed to other teams in that year in the losses.
 

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After looking at our schedule, I now expect Iowa State to start the season off 14-0.
 

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Did you watch last years game at all? DJK was good, but Reisner/Herman did far more damage to ISU than DJK did last year. I suspect that will be similar this year. Iowa's TE's are going to have a big game this season if ISU tries to key on McNutt, especially if the LB's are stacking the line as much as I suspect they will....you can take that to the bank.

As far as Coker "not being effective" carrying the ball 30 times, you may want to check out his stat line from the Insight.com bowl: 33 carries, 219 yards (6.6 YPC). Mizzou had a month to prepare for Iowa, knew they were going to run the ball, and look what happened. Mizzou had a much better defense last season that what ISU will have this season, and Iowa still pounded it right down their throat.

Iowa's OL has had one significant injury this preseason: Nolan MacMillan was the starting RG last year, and he will likely be out a few weeks with a sports hernia, but other than him, this is clearly the deepest OL KF has had since 02. I'm very anxious to watch it Saturday.

The only question mark I have for Iowa's offense this season is Vandenberg, but I've rarely seen KF give a player the kind of praise he's heaped on Vandy in this preaseason....I'm confident he'll be OK.

#1. I find it hard to believe that you don't see the direct effect that having 2 legit threats at WR can have on the success of the TE's in the Iowa passing game. The secondary is always going to be focused on shutting down the big play threats like DJK and McNutt first leaving easy pickin's for the TE's. The absence of DJK will be a big factor and you can look back at the Mizzou game and see that. No DJK and Stanzi goes 11-21 for 200 yards 0 TD's and 2 INT's. McNutt had 2 catches for 63 yards one being a 49 yard catch on a blown coverage on the 3rd play of the game, Reisner had 3 catches for 50 yards one being a 39 yard catch, Sandeman had 4 catches for 44 yards, Nordmann had 1 catch for 38 yards, and Davis had 1 catch for 5 yards. Not overly impressive when your ground game is having decent success and you can keep the D off balance.

#2. Check out Coker's stats you say... Ok I did. You know what I saw?
33 carries 219 yards 6.6 ypc Not too shabby. Then I looked deeper.

31 carries 122 yards 3.94 ypc. That is decent but nothing spectacular. Coker's ypc average was misleading as 97 of his 219 yards came on 2 carries. His true average for 94% of his carries was far less. And that was against the 62nd ranked rush defense in the nation which is pretty mediocre.
 
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I find it hilarious how insecure Hawkeye fans run to defend the smallest of stats/ anecdotal evidence, and do so with more anecdotal evidense like: last years team, which is much different than this years team. Newsflash: this year is not last year - it's a completely different year. Different players, different gameplan, different field. Iowa may likely win but to assume that a previous ****** will hold true in absolute fashion is silly. IMHO.

IE: so based on Coker's insight bowl production, he will always have good games? Every week is different man.
 

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#2. Check out Coker's stats you say... Ok I did. You know what I saw?
33 carries 219 yards 6.6 ypc Not too shabby. Then I looked deeper.

31 carries 122 yards 3.94 ypc. That is decent but nothing spectacular. Coker's ypc average was misleading as 97 of his 219 yards came on 2 carries. His true average for 94% of his carries was far less. And that was against the 62nd ranked rush defense in the nation which is pretty mediocre.

LOL...yeah, Heisman voters usually throw out all of a RB's best runs when determining what kind of effect they had on the game.

RB's are far more likely to bust long runs against defenses that stack the box....why? Because the RB is going to get stopped short more often than not due to the number of guys at the LOS, however, if they get past that initial line, there isn't as much left to stop them. If you don't think Coker is going to bust a couple for 20+ on ISU you are smoking something.

My basic point is, Coker can obviously handle a 30 carry per game workload, which was the point being questioned.
 

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If I thought he didn't know what he's talking about up till know, I should be consistent and say he doesn't know what he's talking about now. :skeptical:
 

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hawkfan;2363388 [I said:
If you don't think Coker is going to bust a couple for 20+ on ISU you are smoking something.[/I]

Reads: "obviously our guys will be awesome because they are awesome."
 

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As far as Coker "not being effective" carrying the ball 30 times, you may want to check out his stat line from the Insight.com bowl: 33 carries, 219 yards (6.6 YPC). Mizzou had a month to prepare for Iowa, knew they were going to run the ball, and look what happened. Mizzou had a much better defense last season that what ISU will have this season, and Iowa still pounded it right down their throat.
Roy Helu had 28 carries, 307 yards (11.0 ypc) against Mizzou. Roy Helu was a decent back, nothing special and he broke records on that D.
 

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I've been thinking 3-0 is plausible for awhile now. Yeah, we've got some pretty big question marks, but so do Iowa and UConn.
 

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LOL...yeah, Heisman voters usually throw out all of a RB's best runs when determining what kind of effect they had on the game.

RB's are far more likely to bust long runs against defenses that stack the box....why? Because the RB is going to get stopped short more often than not due to the number of guys at the LOS, however, if they get past that initial line, there isn't as much left to stop them. If you don't think Coker is going to bust a couple for 20+ on ISU you are smoking something.

My basic point is, Coker can obviously handle a 30 carry per game workload, which was the point being questioned.

My point was that in a 30 plus carry game 94% of the time his carries were going for pretty short gains. 97 yards on 2 carries has a tendency to inflate his per carry average. It wasn't like Iowa's all universe offensive line and Coker wer gashing Mizzou's mediocre run defense for nearly 7 yards every time they ran the ball. They hit 2 big runs and the rest were nothing to write home about.
 

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I can honestly see this happening. It would be a huge win against Iowa and then going into the conference undefeated would be a huge boost of morale and confidence.

This is exactly why I said beating Iowa was more important than beating Texas this year. (Not to reopen that can of worms!!)

Beating Iowa also gives us a better chance to beat Texas. That boost of morale.
 

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This is exactly why I said beating Iowa was more important than beating Texas this year. (Not to reopen that can of worms!!)

Beating Iowa also gives us a better chance to beat Texas. That boost of morale.

You can't possibly rank beating Iowa as more important than any conference foe, including Baylor and our newest conference member, ______!

Rabble rabble rabble!

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