**** daylight savings

WooBadger18

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Having people driving home pre sunset can be a big deal versus after sunset. On my commute home there is probably one in every 20 or 25 drivers who can't figure out that if it is dark enough for the street lights to come on, it is dark enough that they should have their headlights on. Automatic driving lights on cars make this even worse since they see a little light coming out of the front of their car but they have absolutely no tail lights on.
Also, for me there’s just something much more depressing about driving home in the complete dark than if there’s some sun. Also, on the weekends it would be nice to have a little more light later since I am more likely to use it at 5:00.

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2speedy1

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I seem to remember going to school in the dark even with standard time so I always find this the most overblown concern out there.
Did you walk to school? I dont know too many kids that walk to school that leave before 730. I for one road the bus, and had to get on by 7 most years, so it was dark for part of the ride, but was daylight before we got to school. Keeping DST would mean everyone goest to school in the dark, and it is dark well after they get there.
 

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As I've said in previous/annual threads for this topic, I don't have a major preference either way, what I dislike is the abrupt switch.

Daylight hours will diminish as we approach winter solstice -- let it unfold with a cadence.

I don't like it much for spring-forward, either -- enduring winter along w/ limited sunlight, then all of a sudden, it's Memorial Day in early March. Feels like cheating.
 

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Keep in mind, if we stay with DST year round, in winter, this would be sun rise at 8:37 and sunset at 5:47.

Wed, Dec 207:06:57 am7:37:02 am4:47:03 pm5:17:08 pm09:10:0112:12:03 pm6:31 am5:52 pm5:57 am6:26 pm


Staying with Standard time, in the summer, this would be sunrise at 4:37am, and sunset at 7:55pm.

Tue, Jun 205:04:13 am5:37:02 am8:55:07 pm9:27:56 pm15:18:051:16:04 pm4:19 am10:12 pm3:25 am11:06 pm

Staying with one or the other sounds much worse to me than having to adjust my clocks and adjusting my sleep to it, that takes about 2 days to get used to, if that. People just blow it out of proportion how much it really affects their sleep. I mean how many people stay up an hour later or more on the weekends, but still manage to adjust by Tuesday...Every week.
The worst part about DST and having to adjust our clocks 2 out of 365.25 days is listening to people ***** about it.
 

2speedy1

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For those complaining how hard it is on them to switch. Do you ever stay up late or sleep in? Do you manage to get over that random change in your sleep pattern, every time you do it? Or do you go to sleep and wake up exactly the same time every single day of the year, even on holidays and weekends?

Asking for a friend. :jimlad:
 

VeloClone

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For those complaining how hard it is on them to switch. Do you ever stay up late or sleep in? Do you manage to get over that random change in your sleep pattern, every time you do it? Or do you go to sleep and wake up exactly the same time every single day of the year, even on holidays and weekends?

Asking for a friend. :jimlad:
I have made this point before. If we outlaw the change to DST because of the risk to people's health we should outlaw things like Monday Night Football that disrupt people's sleep before they have to get up for work the next day. People disrupt their sleep patterns for fun things all the time like staying up past midnight on New Years Eve, but it is flirting with death if we do it on one Saturday night each spring and fall.
 

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Hmm, So you think only farmers work outside?

I worked outside every day my entire career, which had nothing to do with Agriculture.

A lot more people work outside than you think.
And YOU assume that everyone works 8-5 or 9-5.
A lot more people work shifts than YOU think
 

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For those complaining how hard it is on them to switch. Do you ever stay up late or sleep in? Do you manage to get over that random change in your sleep pattern, every time you do it? Or do you go to sleep and wake up exactly the same time every single day of the year, even on holidays and weekends?

Asking for a friend. :jimlad:
I'm well beyond the kids to school and me going to work age. I sleep when I feel like it. But I have seven cats, and for some reason they are like dogs & babies...they just don't understand that all of a sudden they have to wait an extra hour to eat or go out to poop or get a diaper changed.

Like I said, I don't really care which way. I just think it's dumb, and thought so when I lived in the south as well.

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2speedy1

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And YOU assume that everyone works 8-5 or 9-5.
A lot more people work shifts than YOU think
Not what I said at all, I dont think I ever worked those hours, but I think a lot do, and probably still the majority do.

I worked all hours all the time, daylight, dark, in blizzards, Severe Thunderstorms, 30 below, 100 above. Going in at 2am, 2pm, midnight, noon, 6am or 10pm it was different not only monthly but much of my career daily. Never mattered. My sleep changed daily, and I seemed to manage, but some people seem to think the world is ending when they have to change the clocks 2 times a year, but somehow manage to stay up 4 hours late on Saturday night and think nothing of it.

But you know what, I still want my kids to be able to go to school and come home in the daylight.
 

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Hmm, So you think only farmers work outside?

I worked outside every day my entire career, which had nothing to do with Agriculture.

A lot more people work outside than you think.

Cool. Then the work day can start at 8 am instead of 7.

The sun setting at 4:30 is dumb as hell
 
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People are missing the real point here. You get an extra hour at the bar.










But I haven’t done that in ten years.
 
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I don't really care what time frame they stick with - standard or daylight. I just want them to quit pretending it's "saving time".
I always (halfway) jokingly refer to Standard time as Daylight Wasting Time. Hey, to opposite of saving is wasting.

I guess I could start calling Daylight Savings Time: Substandard Time.
 
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