Devin Lemke

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Hmm Week before Iowa, Iowa state game and random trolls start popping up. Bad trolls is bad.
 

Tre4ISU

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I agree on not being impressed by this offer

As well as Dagel and Miller...


Do you want to argue this recruiting deal again? We did this before when you were ******** about how we were getting guys without stars and offers. About a week later, 3 guys were evaluated and two of them came in with 3 stars. That is a pattern. PR is getting to these guys before they are evaluated and a lot of them have turned out. Dagel and Miller will be just fine.
 

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None of them will be grey shirts. Grey shirts are a pretty un common thing. People grey shirt when a school is over its scholarship limit, but have players like Tuftee who they know won't see the field so they give them a grey shirt to insure they are still on the team but are not violating NCAA rules.

Disagree, there are more gray-shirts around than you think, Pat Neal is a gray-shirt, I know Morehead was one, and I am pretty sure Jesse Smith was as well.... Usually in-state kids that are more bodies of work than come in and play kids....
 

xboxfever

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Disagree, there are more gray-shirts around than you think, Pat Neal is a gray-shirt, I know Morehead was one, and I am pretty sure Jesse Smith was as well.... Usually in-state kids that are more bodies of work than come in and play kids....

Jesse Smith was not a grey shirt. Jesse Smith was a walk on. I remember his first year standing on the sidelines with no name on his jersey(he was 57 then). I only remember that because he was getting a lot of hype because he was a walk on that was playing exceptionally well in practice.

Neal may have been, but what you do not understand is that they do that for scholarship reasons and their might be 1 player a class that gets a grey shirt.
 

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Jesse Smith was not a grey shirt. Jesse Smith was a walk on. I remember his first year standing on the sidelines with no name on his jersey(he was 57 then). I only remember that because he was getting a lot of hype because he was a walk on that was playing exceptionally well in practice.

Neal may have been, but what you do not understand is that they do that for scholarship reasons and their might be 1 player a class that gets a grey shirt.

You may be correct that it falls into just 1-2 players a class, but honestly, we are talking about Dagel, Miller and Lemke. Dagel is a top 10 in class kid so I don't get why you don't see him in this class. Miller is a bit of a shock because of the small school, but he has decent measurables, and Lemke to me seems like a huge get because of his size and speed (anchors 4x100, state champion team), to me they probably camped at Iowa State and turned a couple of heads, and the staff saw them as steals so they offered. I totally trust this staff and their player evaluation, you need to not judge on the ranking and lack of offers, that stuff is never up to date, especially for under the radar players. This is his second year of recruiting I don't get how people are so critical, especially since he was the recruiting coordinator at Auburn under Tubberville....
 

xboxfever

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You may be correct that it falls into just 1-2 players a class, but honestly, we are talking about Dagel, Miller and Lemke. Dagel is a top 10 in class kid so I don't get why you don't see him in this class. Miller is a bit of a shock because of the small school, but he has decent measurables, and Lemke to me seems like a huge get because of his size and speed (anchors 4x100, state champion team), to me they probably camped at Iowa State and turned a couple of heads, and the staff saw them as steals so they offered. I totally trust this staff and their player evaluation, you need to not judge on the ranking and lack of offers, that stuff is never up to date, especially for under the radar players. This is his second year of recruiting I don't get how people are so critical, especially since he was the recruiting coordinator at Auburn under Tubberville....

:confused:Nothing you just said had anything to do with what I posted.
 

xboxfever

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Really, what is this suppose to mean than?? Not heavily recruited but, well evaluated IMO......

You didn't quote that. Also, what does Dagel top 10 mean? Top ten in the state according to rivals? The way you wrote it it sounds like you meant top 10 in the nation. I trust our staff and I have no idea why you are arguing with me when all I did was say they were not heavily recruited, which they are not, when you said they were. I was not criticizing the players just correcting your false statements. Some other poster was attacking the players.
 

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everyone complaining was probably just as upset with commitments out of knott and lenz-they seem to be working out.
let's face it-small town iowa is not a general hotspot to find talented football players. the best in this state often go overlooked or maybe not looked at at all because the "evaluaters" spend most of there time in the key recruiting states. iowa has done a very good job over the years of getting these under the radar iowa kids to walk on who end up getting schollies and then being serious contributers. we are just bypassing the walk-on and going straight to schollies with a few of them.
 

clonedude

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I agree on not being impressed by this offer

As well as Dagel and Miller...

Luckily for us... your opinion means jack squat!

I couldn't care less how many stars are after anyone's name. Rhoads will get the kids in here that he feels best fit the system.

I noticed on the Iowa boards, they are constantly ripping on our class so far. It's funny how much they care about ISU football recruiting. Why do they care so much? I think they are a bit worried that we are grabbing some VERY good instate talent before they blow up. Nothing ticks off Iowa fans more than ISU getting in early on some good instate talent that Iowa hasn't bothered to even look at.

I know a LOT of Iowa fans that wish they would have offered Ben Lamaak, Josh Lenz, and Jake Knott among others. I trust Paul Rhoads' judgement on talent more than any idiot on these message boards.... call me crazy.
 

JUKEBOX

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Brock Dagel still has a lot of growing into his body to do. He is pretty slow now on getting to blocks. I have a feeling after a redshirt season, this kid could grow into a beast.
 

clonedude

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Brock Dagel still has a lot of growing into his body to do. He is pretty slow now on getting to blocks. I have a feeling after a redshirt season, this kid could grow into a beast.

Hey JUKEBOX.... where did you get that avatar? Can you link me to a bigger pic of it?

That's almost exactly what I wanted ISU to go to for a new color scheme a few years back. We should be cardinal and GOLD, not cardinal and bright yellow.
 

JUKEBOX

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Hey JUKEBOX.... where did you get that avatar? Can you link me to a bigger pic of it?

That's almost exactly what I wanted ISU to go to for a new color scheme a few years back. We should be cardinal and GOLD, not cardinal and bright yellow.

I photoshopped it about a week ago...
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clonedude

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I photoshopped it about a week ago...
5cknz8.jpg

Thanks! That is the coolest looking version I've ever seen yet. Great job!

Have you done it where the facemask is the cardinal color instead of black though? I like the black look, but I'm not sure if we want to bring a third color in or not?

Awesome work though.
 

JUKEBOX

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Thanks! That is the coolest looking version I've ever seen yet. Great job!

Have you done it where the facemask is the cardinal color instead of black though? I like the black look, but I'm not sure if we want to bring a third color in or not?

Awesome work though.

The facemask is usually gray... Cardinal would look kind of weird IMO...

ncf_a_usc_300.jpg
 

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Interesting thought on Devin (rather than the rampant thread hijacking)...he seems very, very like another recruit, several years ago--when Iowa signed a 6'4" 220 kid out of nowhere named Karl Klug.

I think that one might have turned out okay.
 

CloneIce

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None of them will be grey shirts. Grey shirts are a pretty un common thing. People grey shirt when a school is over its scholarship limit, but have players like Tuftee who they know won't see the field so they give them a grey shirt to insure they are still on the team but are not violating NCAA rules.

We usually have about one greyshirt a year, they are not unusual. None of these players have mentioned greyshirting though.

Its clear that Lemke was recruited on his long-term potential, not based on where he's at as a High school Sr. Tall, fast, athletic... hopefully they are projecting him correctly.
 

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