DG PT ???

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Sorry, but DG will go down as the least-memorable four-year starter is ISU history. I appreciate that he is the first person to stick around for four years in quite a while, but will not be sad when his playing days at ISU are done.

In all of ISU history? I don't know enough about the old people, but I'm sure some others would beat him out.
 

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I agree. Sitting your most experienced player who happens to be your leading returning scorer is typically the best course of action. No sense in him rubbing off on the younger players.

I buy that. We don't want Anderson starting right away. Let him beat out DG before benching him for good; DG that is. Sorry I'm being a little facetious as you were. Look at Anderson's stats. 1) He is older than DG 2) more experienced (3 year starter also but MORE minutes per game -> in the last 3 years anderson has played in 29 games per season and averaged 30 minutes per game) and 3) Anderson averaged 10.5, 12, and 17 pts per game during those years (more points, a 1,000+ career scorer and more pts/game, and lots more rebounds too).

Oh, but its not a B12 team he played for its only a mid major -> Like UNI who has been kicking our buts the last few years. You were trying to be cute but actually made my point. DG might be seeing more time on the bench from day 1 given what Anderson has already done. Yeah, he hasn't done it here (anderson). But seriously what has DG done here? We haven't had a winning season since he's been here. Yeah, Anderson's teams haven't been very good either so that's not a good way to compare them. I don't think Anderson has played the point exclusively either. So you can't compare apples-apples. So I guess it comes down to opinions. My opinion is DG is over rated and might be seeing seriously less minutes next year. This year he averaged 31.6 minutes per game. Next year? I'm thinking maybe 23-24. Remember just my opinion guys and its worth just as much as yours.
 
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Hopefully FH can teach DG how to finish better at the basket, and how to be a little more consistent with his outside shooting. If he truly can become more of an offensive threat, that can open up a lot of things for an offense.

FH will probably use more of a pro set than did GMac, which will give a lot more spacing to the offense, and I think that will help DG, especially on his drives.
 

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Oh, but its not a B12 team he played for its only a mid major -> Like UNI who has been kicking our buts the last few years.
I would respectfully state that UNI has enjoyed more success in the last couple of years than ISU. However, in the head-to-head they kicked neither our buts nor our butts. You will recall that ISU defeated UNI on UNI's home court two years ago and that UNI narrowly escaped with a win in Hilton this past season.
 

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I would respectfully state that UNI has enjoyed more success in the last couple of years than ISU. However, in the head-to-head they kicked neither our buts nor our butts. You will recall that ISU defeated UNI on UNI's home court two years ago and that UNI narrowly escaped with a win in Hilton this past season.


You are correct. My bad. Actually, UNI has been very good the last few years and Anderson's teams have been pretty bad so even I admit that my analogy wasn't too good.

ISU just put up an announcement of Anderson's transfer and it includes lots more stats; stats which I think proves my point: Anderson is a very good player and very experienced, and in my opinion when you consider him AND Demarcus Phillips it may results in far fewer minutes for DG next year. Here is the link:

ISU Adds 1,000-Point Scorer From Northern Illinois - Iowa State University Athletics Official Web Site - www.CYCLONES.com - The home of Iowa State Cyclone Sports
 

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I know Diante Garrett is a love/hate fest sort of guy. I will say that I'm not in the hate fest area but close. I see serious deficiencies in his play (i.e. things I do not like). I am going to speculate here and others can join in if you want. With Anderson - SR, 3 Year Starter and DeMarcus Phillips - JR, Stud - both coming in next year, I see the potential where DG could see dramatically reduced PT. You could even see DG sit while Bubu, a walk on, sees serious minutes. You heard it here first.

Frankly what I would like to see is Freddy have the balls that MacD did not have and if DG dribbles the ball off his foot or tries a friggen finger roll that misses or gets swatted away .... "with the game on the line", that DG has somebody get in his face and sit his ***** on the bench until he learns how to finish out a game. And Anderson (or Phillips or Bubu) will play PG at the end of the games until DG "gets it". Yeah, I know lots of people around here think highly of DG but this is my opinion ... flame away if you must, but I think DG's PT just got in serious jeopardy.
DG reminds me a little of Elmer (Robinson).Had some real talent and wanted to win but would make some occasional "brain freeze" plays. It was fun to hear Johnny go off though!
 

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There is no way DG will play less than he did last year. It's rediculous to think that. At least from my point of view. Every single set play went through DG last year. Ever watch a game where DG was getting denied the ball? There is no one on the team that has the ball handling skills nor the experience DG brings to the table.
I know the coaching change and new system and all that jazz, but after reviewing tape from last year I find it hard to believe he plays less than last year. All his flaws are correctable.
When we get to running this season watch DG have 8 ast/gm. Easy.
 

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Frankly what I would like to see is Freddy have the balls that MacD did not have and if DG dribbles the ball off his foot or tries a friggen finger roll that misses or gets swatted away .... "with the game on the line", that DG has somebody get in his face and sit his ***** on the bench until he learns how to finish out a game. And Anderson (or Phillips or Bubu) will play PG at the end of the games until DG "gets it". Yeah, I know lots of people around here think highly of DG but this is my opinion ... flame away if you must, but I think DG's PT just got in serious jeopardy.

Had you tuned out by the KSU game? DG is the only guy who can do crap at the end of the game. If you think DG is playing less than 30 MPG, especially to be replaced by Bubu, you are smoking freaking crack. You heard it here first.
 

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DG haters need to start watching the freaking games. He was without question the leader of the team last year, and he won some games single-handedly. His mistakes are minimal. I don't think any DG hater really has a valid point. Its frustrating seeing thread about him popping up, and criticizing him. He should be praised for sticking it out through all the **** thats gone on with this program, not be pushed out by a fan-base for an uknown transfer.

Wrong.

It was not DG's team nor was he the team leader. Last year nobody stood up and took the leadership and it hasn't been done since Curtis Stinson owned the team.
 

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Sorry, but DG will go down as the least-memorable four-year starter is ISU history. I appreciate that he is the first person to stick around for four years in quite a while, but will not be sad when his playing days at ISU are done.

I would agree with this, you know, since he stands no chance to be a four year starter as he didn't start his freshman year.
 

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Sorry, but DG will go down as the least-memorable four-year starter is ISU history. I appreciate that he is the first person to stick around for four years in quite a while, but will not be sad when his playing days at ISU are done.

I won't put money on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if he goes down as the 5th McDermott recruit to get drafted into the NBA.
 

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Sorry, but DG will go down as the least-memorable four-year starter is ISU history. I appreciate that he is the first person to stick around for four years in quite a while, but will not be sad when his playing days at ISU are done.


he hasnt started all four years. but he will start next year and get at least 28 mpg.
 

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DG will play the vast majority of minute for ISU at PG next year.

Also, NIU fan in the other thread says Anderson is really more of a 2.
 

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DG would start for 8-10 of the teams in the B12 next year. Some of you people are unreal.
 

clonedude

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DG will play the vast majority of minute for ISU at PG next year.

Also, NIU fan in the other thread says Anderson is really more of a 2.

Correct. I don't think that Anderson pushes DG for PG minutes hardly at all. DG needs to limit his stupid passes he makes at times, and he needs to learn to finish at the rim or find the open shooter.

DG can get to the rim against anyone in the Big 12... period. I have not seen many players better than him at destroying his man off the dribble. It's what he does after beating his man that has to improve.

I've made this comparison numerous times, and have been ripped over and over again because people misunderstand what I'm saying, but here it goes again........... if DG wants to play in the NBA, he needs to watch Rajon Rondo for the Celtics. DG can become a player like him if he works his tail off his senior season. He probably cannot become Rondo, but that is the style of point guard he needs to attempt to become.

Rondo is a very long and lean PG... like DG. He has excellent handles and driving ability, but does not shoot the ball well at all. Sound familiar? But Rondo when he gets into the lane either finishes himself or finds the open guy. That's what DG needs to be able to do.... but I think he can do it.
 

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Did this turn into the DG is not worthy thread? Hope not...

A couple of things that I have picked up on watching and reading the interviews with the Coach. One of the first things he pointed out, without throwing GMAC under the bus was, DG has never been allowed to use his height and quickness. Coach keeps reiterating spacing for DG so he can out quick the defender. Thinking back, the prior coach never created spacing for DG. DG would have to come down and the 5 guys would have to run play 217 of 350 while GMAC stood in the coaches box telling everyone where to go and when. I think we will see this year are fast breaks and more spreading the floor and screens to provide DG the opportunity to provide separation. I think DG is going to have an excellent year as a senior and the K-State game this year was a glimpes of what he can do.

Secondly, I was impressed by coach using JVB in an example when he was introduced as our new coach when explaining his offense...a simple offense.i.e. He said if JVB is open under the basket, we are going to throw it to him and if he scores, we are going to do it again. What stands out to me is that a guy that has been up for two days thinking about this new opportunity and his head is spinning had the ability to pull a name out of the air of a kid he just met that was hurt all season.i.e. never played or mentioned during the games. This tells me he has been game planning this team for some time. Others may argue about this, but this was a subtle hint to me that he has been watching our team very quitely from the sidelines.

My 2 cents

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DG would start for 8-10 of the teams in the B12 next year. Some of you people are unreal.

Truth.

The DG bashing is ridiculous. He was 3rd in the Big XII in assists and 5th in A/TO ratio. Could he stand to be a better spot up shooter when someone else is handling the ball? Of course. Could he be a better finisher at the hole? Of course. But he had a better FG% than Gilstrap, Brackins, and Staiger. If you remove Pomlee and Dorr (12 total attempts), he was 4th on the team.