That's exactly why Taylor was so successful at Chipola College. He had a strong PG in Stephon Hannah so he could concentrate on playing the 2 and he didn't have to be a one-man song and dance routine. Taylor is a great player who will hopefully benefit greatly from being in the backcourt with Garrett and Brister.
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That's exactly why Taylor was so successful at Chipola College. He had a strong PG in Stephon Hannah so he could concentrate on playing the 2 and he didn't have to be a one-man song and dance routine. Taylor is a great player who will hopefully benefit greatly from being in the backcourt with Garrett and Brister.
I'm surprised this many people have seen Garrett play. I also have seen all of Vincent's televised games this season. What I found most striking about him was that he rarely tried to do too much, but he was always a major part of his team's games. Vincent's style was never to run either, so that was always a factor in the way he played. In the title game they had a couple multi-minute posessions just so they could burn clock.
He never had to worry about canning outside shots becuase his teammate Perine was the sharpshooter. He appeared to not think of himself first and no matter who was the opponent or what was the situation, he could break down his guy and get to the rim.
I highly doubt he'll be a big scorer, but I can see him as an excellent PG very quickly.
It should also be noted that Diante is not a player who has always been on a pedistal. He bounced back from injury and worked his way to where he is. Players like that tend to be blessed with extra work ethic and an appreciation for their positions.
He never had to worry about canning outside shots becuase his teammate Perine was the sharpshooter. He appeared to not think of himself first and no matter who was the opponent or what was the situation, he could break down his guy and get to the rim.
I highly doubt he'll be a big scorer, but I can see him as an excellent PG very quickly.
It should also be noted that Diante is not a player who has always been on a pedistal. He bounced back from injury and worked his way to where he is. Players like that tend to be blessed with extra work ethic and an appreciation for their positions.
I believe that guards win championships, and I am happy with all of the guards that Greg has signed. But, unless the inside guys come back 20 pounds stronger, we are going to get pushed around again next year. And if that happens again, all the guard play in the world isn't going to make us a tourney team.
I have also heard that Diante is not a PG in the truest sense of the position. They say he plays more like a no. 2. Then I saw him play, and I am on board w/ that analysis.
However, how many times do you get a really great PG or Center?? They are both hard to come by. What I do like about Garrett is that he is careful, plays GREAT defense, and shoots well. All things we need. If we can get by w/ him for a year, until we get Buckley (whom I haven't seen, but understand to be a truer Point)- then we'll get along just fine.
However, how many times do you get a really great PG or Center?? They are both hard to come by. What I do like about Garrett is that he is careful, plays GREAT defense, and shoots well. All things we need. If we can get by w/ him for a year, until we get Buckley (whom I haven't seen, but understand to be a truer Point)- then we'll get along just fine.
Jesus, I love how a kid hasn't even graduated high school and people are all ready saying he isn't going to help us very much. I get sick of posts like this. He isn't even at ISU and he's getting negative posts like this.
Their is a difference between being critical and negative.
People have problems understanding that.
People have problems understanding that.
The purpose of this message board is to discuss all things in relation to ISU sports. There is nothing wrong with opening up discussion on a player and giving your own opinion about how you think anyone might perform. The main point everyone needs to understand is that what we say here is moot. Nobody knows how someone will or won't perform until they start playing on the court.
Sorry man but I get really sick of posts like this. No one's bashing Diante. Most believe he'll bring huge things next season which is a lot of ask of any freshman. I trust PsychedClone's opinion over anyones on this board yet I personally believe Diante's current build is a legitimate concern. Is that negative? Short answer; No. It's an observation and an opinion.
im not expecting diante to come in and dominate, but i wont be surprised if he contributes big time. these phenom frosh have to come from somewhere. what about that sosa guy for louisville...had anyone heard of him before this year? was he a heralded recruit? some frosh just fit in and step it up when they get to the next level. no reason diante cant fit in this catagory.
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I think Garrett's future is eventually going to be at the 2 guard spot, which is a positive because that is more often the scoring guard. But I am sure he has the ability to play the point or bring the ball up if needed. The great thing is, in 2 years we will have 3 guards who have played point in high school and all have good size for guards, although Diante will need to add some bulk. That should make us hard to press and cut our turnovers way down.
Another interesting thing about Diante, I read an article that said he was a mediocre JV player on a medicore JV team when he was a sophomore. But after that season he became a gym a rat and really improved to be possibly the best player in Wisconsin by his senior year. If he improved that much during his high school career, there's no reason to think that he can't continue to improve and eventually, maybe he will turn himself into one of the better guards in the country. I don't think he has a ceiling on how good he can get yet.
Another interesting thing about Diante, I read an article that said he was a mediocre JV player on a medicore JV team when he was a sophomore. But after that season he became a gym a rat and really improved to be possibly the best player in Wisconsin by his senior year. If he improved that much during his high school career, there's no reason to think that he can't continue to improve and eventually, maybe he will turn himself into one of the better guards in the country. I don't think he has a ceiling on how good he can get yet.
Who cares what number this kid has as a position. It really makes no sense. All that matters is that he can handle the rock. He will fit into our offense where ever adn however Coach Mac designs.
Psychedclone is one of the most reliable posters on this board, especially with bbball.
Psychedclone is one of the most reliable posters on this board, especially with bbball.
Actually Sosa was a heralded recruit. 4 star, 13th best pt gaurd and 74th best player overall last year according to Rivals. Just an FYI.
I disagree. I think with the exact same team back plus Thompson, we're going to see improvement. There is added time in the weightroom and they will know GMac's system. McIntosh did start playing better at the end of the year. Even if Garrett and Brister don't contribute, I think that this is an NIT team. If the freshmen can take some minutes, this should easily be a bubble team at least.
Now you know why I was reluctant to start this thread. I never said Garrett wouldn't come in and contribute. In fact, I don't think I have ever uttered a harsh criticism about him. He is long, quick athletic, plays good defense, rebounds well, just about everything you want to see. Handles the ball well, gets teammates involved, Lots of things which would be an improvement. He just doesn't play like a true PG. I would call him more of a finesse guard than a dominater. And you certainly don't have to be a 5 star PG to be an improvement over the present situation. PEACE !
I'm not giving him a negative post, nor am I saying he isn't going to help us very much. I guess some of you guys don't get it.
We will most likely go with the same line except with Wes starting at SF and Rahshon subbing in and Brackins starting at PF. I don't see Mac going with an all freshman back court next year, Corey and Mike have 1 year of Division 1 basketball EXPERIENCE under their belt. Plus we still have Dodie subbing in. You can't tell me you can fit in Brister, Boozer and Garrett into this mix.
You have to have a solid 7-man rotation to win and we have that with Corey, Mike, Wes, Brackins, Jiri, Rahshon and Dodie. I see MAYBE Brister coming into that mix if he signs the LOI, if not it will be Garett.
I don't see Boozer escaping a redshirt, why wouldn't you redshirt him with Corey and Mike being seniors. Then we would have 3 great guys ready to take over in the 08-09 season.
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