Disappointing season

State2015

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I'd rather watch college athletes than a minor league team that happens to have the name of my alma mater.

At this point ADs are just teams licensing a colleges name for marketing
That’s completely fair as long as you accept that these unpaid “college athletes” will be D2-level players and we won’t win many games.

That’s your choice, but don’t come on here complaining that we’re awful. My point is either accept being D2 or accept the money piece. Pick one - college sports aren’t gonna change just because you dislike it - so we’ve gotta play along
 

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I'd rather watch college athletes than a minor league team that happens to have the name of my alma mater.

At this point ADs are just teams licensing a colleges name for marketing
That’s why there needs to be rules and contracts beyond just the House Settlement- it would force the $EC and B1G to play on a more level playing field.

If we just go to unpaid college athletes, then ISU should just go to D2, release TJ and CMC from their contracts (they would be gone at that point anyways) and move on with life- but we’re gonna field some pretty bad teams moving forward
 

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I'm not going to hear that we have to stay positive. We can say it this was a disappointing season. Pre season top 5 team and to lose the way we did in the round of 32 in a non-competitive game.

I not going to go as far as to start blaming the coach, players, or fans. Sometimes you just don't meet expectations and this year we most certainly did not.
Three starters with significant injuries including 2 in the NCAAs will do that. Tamin really shouldn't have been playing, but he had to.
 

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Three starters with significant injuries including 2 in the NCAAs will do that. Tamin really shouldn't have been playing, but he had to.
We didn’t exactly have significant injuries.

A 3 and D wing, that’s mediocre on defense, missed 6 games with a broken finger in his non-shooting hand. We have it very good if that’s significant

A groin injury in December shouldn’t culminate with finally getting rest in the NCAA tournament.

Lipsey’s timing is significant, although why is he playing up 8 with 3 minutes left in a glorified exhibition when it’s clear Gilbert is at risk of being unavailable?
 

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We didn’t exactly have significant injuries.

A 3 and D wing, that’s mediocre on defense, missed 6 games with a broken finger in his non-shooting hand. We have it very good if that’s significant

A groin injury in December shouldn’t culminate with finally getting rest in the NCAA tournament.

Lipsey’s timing is significant, although why is he playing up 8 with 3 minutes left in a glorified exhibition when it’s clear Gilbert is at risk of being unavailable?

The Gilbert injury was definitely a strange thing, but it might be as simple as the staff and Gilbert thinking it would slowly get better over the course of the season with some reduced minutes and maybe a few games off, but clearly that was wrong.

It's easy in hindsight to see that they should've shut him down for extended time, maybe even 4-6 weeks back in Jan-Feb. But if a guy can go and is as important to the team as Gilbert was, it's tough to make that decision in the heart of Big 12 play.

The Momcilovic injury didn't matter that much. Not because he wasn't important, but because he came back and got to full strength. Might have cost the team a couple wins and maybe one seed line, but that's not the end of the world. The Gilbert injury killed the season, and what hope was left was killed with Tamin's.
 

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It's easy in hindsight to see that they should've shut him down for extended time, maybe even 4-6 weeks back in Jan-Feb. But if a guy can go and is as important to the team as Gilbert was, it's tough to make that decision in the heart of Big 12 play.
Depending on when a KG shutdown occurred, it would've overlapped at least some w/ Milan's absence. If a lengthier removal of Keshon could've meant high % change he'd return full-strength later, instead of piecemeal minute-reduction and game-to-game, in retrospect we'd probably take it.

In real time, think about how ISU was 14-1 (4-0) when Milan went out, beat KU without him to go 15-1 (5-0). If we knew we'd have neither for a 6-ish game stretch, that might've felt like "hate to squander this high perch."

Like you say, hindsight 20/20.
 

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We'll look at this season as a lot of "what-if."

A bummer part of it is the most "sparkly" portion occurred in first half of the season, instead of struggling a bit early, then having a gradual surge toward postseason. It's just the way memory works.

Climbing the ranks even with a preseason top 5 position, serious contender for conference title, it'll be overshadowed by the injury situation and first-weekend exit.

Even the detail of ISU maintaining a 3 seed despite the hurdles is bound to get lost in the mix.
 

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We didn’t exactly have significant injuries.

A 3 and D wing, that’s mediocre on defense, missed 6 games with a broken finger in his non-shooting hand. We have it very good if that’s significant

A groin injury in December shouldn’t culminate with finally getting rest in the NCAA tournament.

Lipsey’s timing is significant, although why is he playing up 8 with 3 minutes left in a glorified exhibition when it’s clear Gilbert is at risk of being unavailable?
This is one of the dumbest posts I've read on here in a while. And that is saying something.
 

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Not much specific to this being disappointing season, but whenever ISU doesn't reach second weekend, I'm additionally bummed as Sweet 16 round starts, and we're a day away so it's on my mind.

Not because ISU lost but I don't feel all that excited about the tourney this year.

I heard that the TV ratings are way up so I must be alone in that regard.
 

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Yes, it is going to set back a team. But it shouldn't set back a team so that they get behind by 26 points to a lower tourney seed, or have back-to-back blowout losses against a bad KSU and a mediocre KU, and another loss to a bad OSU team.

Where does ISU want to go? If ISU wants to seriously contend for a regular season Big 12 title and make a deep tourney run, they need to figure out an offensive scheme that doesn't require complete athletic superiority over the opponent (because that isn't happening night in and night out in the Big 12), or one guy playing out of his mind (like CJ did until the opponents figured out that they needed to neutralize him) to open up things for the other guys. Otherwise, the current scheme works well enough to do well with a cupcake preseason and beat enough mediocre conference teams to make the tourney.

And depth certainly doesn't hurt, because, you know, injuries...
these are very good good points on the offensive scheme or system. What if Jones doesn't go off a few times? How do we stay in games? It would be nice if it was the offensvie system or scheme got us points instead of an over relience on talent making super human plays to create points (Gilbert was a incredible at this). But credit coaches for recruiting players that could do that. But with that, it is hard to pull off at all times. So many times over the years with TJ we run into these ridicuous 4 plus minutes scoring droughts or no FG droughts. Most of the time it was compensated for with great defense. Please do not take that as I don't think TJ isn't great for us, he is, but that is the one thing his program still needs to improve on. I don't ever want to see crap offense like the first 10 minutes of Illinois last year, that awful Pitt game, and that 20-2 run from Sunday. All NCAA tournament games.
 

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Meh, this too shall pass. We were way over rated early and then 4 out of the 8 man rotation got dinged up the last half of the season. The only thing that “disappointed” me was the inconsistency of Milan when he came back the last month. Some nights he was on and other nights he was really off. As a third year player next year and his commitment, I look for him to come around and take the pressure off the interior post players. With what returns, I think we’ll be in good shape.
 

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Which cyclone from the past do you wish you could have dropped into the lineup to help us?