Do we go JUCO to replace George at MLB next year?

[Clonefan94]

Some might say jucos needed for the oline.

Seriously, this is the one position I'd be dedicating all my time to shoring up. It's been the one consistently bad spot in the Rhoads era. with D-line a close second. I think everyone else could be serviceable if we could get a line that could block at all. Beat up, banged up, whatever, I have yet to see a game played under Rhoads where I have said, "Wow, our o-line looked pretty good out there today.

 

[heitclone]

If there a juco targets at any position that can in and play, we can use them.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

Kane Seeley should be the guy next year. The safety and DB's are what I'm more concerned about. Jansen, Washington, and Broomy all gone, leaving us with undersized Sam E. and very green Nigel Tribune. Perhaps Rogers moves to one of the safety positions? Even so, I haven't seen enough of him to know whether that is a good thing or not.

 

[isuholder]

Kane Seeley should be the guy next year. The safety and DB's are what I'm more concerned about. Jansen, Washington, and Broomy all gone, leaving us with undersized Sam E. and very green Nigel Tribune. Perhaps Rogers moves to one of the safety positions? Even so, I haven't seen enough of him to know whether that is a good thing or not.

This is correct. Kane Seeley will start next year. Darius White doesn't even travel with the travel squad...nor does Alton Meeks--obviously they are redshirting him. I see Kane Seeley and Luke Knott being the Jake Knott and A.J. Klein of ISU in the coming years.

 

[Yes13]

Yep, he is just pretty good, which makes him look awesome on our team. We'll sure miss him next year though, too bad we wasted his freshman year chasing kickoffs, he should have redshirted.

I don't even think he played on kickoff. I'm pretty sure he only played on PAT defense (seriously).

 

[Nuts4Cy]

This is correct. Kane Seeley will start next year. Darius White doesn't even travel with the travel squad...nor does Alton Meeks--obviously they are redshirting him. I see Kane Seeley and Luke Knott being the Jake Knott and A.J. Klein of ISU in the coming years.

Concerned if true. Darius was a highly recruited LB out of a powerhouse HS in FL.

 

[Nuts4Cy]

I don't even think he played on kickoff. I'm pretty sure he only played on PAT defense (seriously).

I know he played as a Freshmen. Wore no. 7 and always tried to pump up the crowd before each kickoff. He was a wedge buster, in that his only job was to run as fast as he can and blow up the wedge from the return team so others can tackle the ball carrier.

 

[State43]

Concerned if true. Darius was a highly recruited LB out of a powerhouse HS in FL.

By highly recruited, you mean Indiana and 4 other midmajors?

 

[Rural]

Get Clinkscales and flip Jeff Jones.........go from there.

 

[D UP Clones]

White traveled for Baylor (saw him).. I am guessing they dont want to take snaps from george who will be all big twelve at some level at the end of the season.

You guys haven't seen the other teams linebackers if you think george isn't one of the best in the conference.

 

[isufbcurt]

Concerned if true. Darius was a highly recruited LB out of a powerhouse HS in FL.

No reason to be concerned. Darius will be fine, like Rhoads mentions over and over again the "light" just comes on for people at different times.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

Isn't White listed as No. 2 at one of the LB positions this week?

 

[Luth4Cy]

Isn't White listed as No. 2 at one of the LB positions this week?

Unofficially he's a back up at Sam, but it from what I gather he'd only play if it's a goal line situation and Brackens can't go.

 

[nhclone]

It seems to me that the coaches maybe overestimated some of the young guys on D. Seems like we've been after quite a few JUCOs lately on that side of the ball. Could be I just never noticed that we were recruiting hem before, but we've had several stories pop in the last few weeks about JUCO guys. Purely speculation on my part obviously, could also be that they see lots of potential on O the next couple years and want the best possible chance to match it with a good D to make a run.

 

[Wesley]

Maybe the thread title should be should we go juco to find an OC?

 

[NATEizKING]

It seems to me that the coaches maybe overestimated some of the young guys on D. Seems like we've been after quite a few JUCOs lately on that side of the ball. Could be I just never noticed that we were recruiting hem before, but we've had several stories pop in the last few weeks about JUCO guys. Purely speculation on my part obviously, could also be that they see lots of potential on O the next couple years and want the best possible chance to match it with a good D to make a run.

DL is always a problem and we've lost a lot of young guys over the years at LB to attrition.

 

[19210]

FWIW, Phil Steele has George as 1st team All-Big XII in his midseason awards.

Would that be with or without the stain in his pants? :wideeyed::shocked::swoon::skeptical:

I'm sorry I shouldn't have done that. I love George and think he leaves it all out there and that is about all a coach can ask from his players.

 

[Cyclophile1]

It seems to me that the coaches maybe overestimated some of the young guys on D. Seems like we've been after quite a few JUCOs lately on that side of the ball. Could be I just never noticed that we were recruiting hem before, but we've had several stories pop in the last few weeks about JUCO guys. Purely speculation on my part obviously, could also be that they see lots of potential on O the next couple years and want the best possible chance to match it with a good D to make a run.

I think it's also an indication that they know that this season is more or less a throw-away and that they cannot afford to have another turdball season next year. It stinks of desperation, and that's concerning to me. They blew it last recruiting cycle when they didn't sign a ready-to-play JUCO linebacker (arguably two) and now we're painfully thin there. I assumed we were satisfied with all the CBs we had (so much that Lawry moved to WR) and now I see that we've offered one from Ellsworth. There looks to be doing some house-cleaning going on on a few guys who would be fifth year seniors who aren't contributing at all, so I think the concern about talent is palpable and growing. I'm not loving the vibe in the program right now along these lines. I'm comfortable with 3-4 JUCOs each year to meet pipleline problems- it's almost unavoidable at an ISU type school. I don't like the apparent pursuit in areas very few if any of us would have said was a need a couple of months ago. Reactionary recruiting was one of the hallmarks of the McCarney "plan," and it pains me just to write that. Is it another crack in the foundation? The perception it creates isn't good IMO.

 

[nhclone]

Probably a combination of some of our speculation. Either way, I'm fine with the staff going JUCO a few tines every year. The risks are well known but you're much more likely to get an instant impact from them than a freshman.

 

[CloneIce]

I see Charlie Rogers as a linebacker as well. I think he has the frame to put on weight. It doesn't seem like staff likes him at cornerback anymore. I think he is similar in size to Jared Brackins or could be in an off season.

I'll be suprised if he isn't a starting safety next season. He is not actually on the LB depth chart, that is just where they put the nickleback. Nickleback one year, safety the next, just like Terran Benton and Deion Broomfield before him.