Does Alabama Deserve a Rematch???
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Quite false. Boise St brings in huge ratings whenever they take on a big name BCS opponent. A Boise St - LSU title match up would out do the Auburn-Oregon match up of last year.
Let's see: Score 6, lose at home, and miss 4 field goals, one in overtime.
No way. Kentucky scored more against LSU. In regulation. On their field!
Maybe if there's a four team tournament, and only then, maybe.
Alabama can have a rematch against LSU as soon as we get our rematch against Alabama in the Independence Bowl. Last time I checked, do-overs only count on the playground.
Stick a fork in 'em, as far as the NC goes. Please. Nobody wants to watch the "Five Field Goals of the Century" ever again. Certainly not this season.
If you are Alabama and can't win the national title on your home field, needing to generate a mere 10 points, following a bye, there is no possible realignment of stars (barring everyone else losing twice) that will be more in your favor. 'Bama had the NC in their hands on 3rd and Long.
And punted.
No way. Kentucky scored more against LSU. In regulation. On their field!
Maybe if there's a four team tournament, and only then, maybe.
Alabama can have a rematch against LSU as soon as we get our rematch against Alabama in the Independence Bowl. Last time I checked, do-overs only count on the playground.
Stick a fork in 'em, as far as the NC goes. Please. Nobody wants to watch the "Five Field Goals of the Century" ever again. Certainly not this season.
If you are Alabama and can't win the national title on your home field, needing to generate a mere 10 points, following a bye, there is no possible realignment of stars (barring everyone else losing twice) that will be more in your favor. 'Bama had the NC in their hands on 3rd and Long.
And punted.
Not sure if it was posted already, but I loved Deace's take on it, actually.
He mentioned of the 9 wins that LSU has, 6 are against ranked team and 5 of those are on the road. They won AT Alabama. That was Alabama's shot. If Boise and OSU and Stanford lose, they shouldn't even have a NC game (assuming LSU wins the conference title game) and just give them the trophy.
Obviously that is a little far-fetched, but I get the sentiment. Alabama wouldn't deserve to come back and play them again. They lost, AT HOME. You can't make LSU beat them again. It's stupid. If OSU or Stanford run out, they play LSU. Done and done.
(Boise should play in the Boise Bowl on their own field every year....against themselves)
He mentioned of the 9 wins that LSU has, 6 are against ranked team and 5 of those are on the road. They won AT Alabama. That was Alabama's shot. If Boise and OSU and Stanford lose, they shouldn't even have a NC game (assuming LSU wins the conference title game) and just give them the trophy.
Obviously that is a little far-fetched, but I get the sentiment. Alabama wouldn't deserve to come back and play them again. They lost, AT HOME. You can't make LSU beat them again. It's stupid. If OSU or Stanford run out, they play LSU. Done and done.
(Boise should play in the Boise Bowl on their own field every year....against themselves)
Historical Fiesta Bowl ratings (starting with 2004 because 2003 was the NC):
2004 - Ohio State v. Kansas State - 8.7
2005 - Utah v. Pittsburgh - 7.4
2006 - Ohio State v. Notre Dame - 12.9
2007 - Boise State v. Oklahoma - 8.4
2008 - West Virginia v. Oklahoma - 7.7
2009 - Texas v. Ohio State - 10.4
2010 - Boise State v. TCU - 8.23
2011 - Connecticut v. Oklahoma - 6.15
So they're ranked 4 & 5 of the last 8 in the Fiesta Bowl - middle of the road.
Last year's NC game had a rating of 15.29 which ranks it 5th of the past 8. 2 of the 3 games behind last year's NC featured LSU (v. Oklahoma in 2004 and v. Ohio State in 2008), so it doesn't appear that LSU is a huge draw.
Based on this, it doesn't seem that Boise/LSU would be a huge TV draw. But I also don't think the matchup sould be determined based on TV ratings, so I guess it doesn't really matter.
You are making an interesting, but wrong comparison. Boise State OU was a surprise game - Boise's coming out party. Boise/TCU was seen as a consolation (or gyp) game.
Neither have the luster of an actual NC game. You'd have a lot of sets tuned in, either to see the "Boise" questioned settled for once and for all on the field, or to see the underdog finally make good on its threat.
In any case, I can't imagine that LSU/Alabama II (or, the "Race to Double Digits" Bowl) would have the luster that the ESPergers think it would. Conference doubling/esp. division doubling sounds so cool to the fans of the conference, but really just end up confusing things.)
LSU, for one, doesn't want to hear about how undefeated Stanford (for example) should "share" the title since they didn't get picked to decide it on the field. They did that once in 2003, and it still sticks in their craw.
I'll put it another way: if Alabama gets "screwed" out of the opportunity to do it over, nobody, outside of the Crimson choir, is going to ever, ever, ever think about it.
Better to put in another undefeated team, or even a 1-defeated team, over Alabama, if to do nothing else but avoid controversy.
He was comparing Boise/LSU to Auburn/Oregon, and I don't think Boise/LSU beats Auburn/Oregon. LSU has shown that they don't bring a large TV audience and while Boise may get some people's interest, it will obviously turn some people off. Just look at all the people on here who rail against them. They'll lose some viewers because of this.
I do think Boise/LSU would probably make for better ratings than a rematch of LSU/Alabama because there are obviously a large number of people who didn't enjoy the game the first time around and wouldn't bother tuning in again.
I didn't read all the posts -- but assuming both LSU and Alabama win out, it would not be fair to LSU to play Alabama again.
Under this scenario, for LSU to win the NC they would need beat Bama twice. Bama would only need to go 1-1 against LSU.
Best out of three?
Under this scenario, for LSU to win the NC they would need beat Bama twice. Bama would only need to go 1-1 against LSU.
Best out of three?
Why is this in ISU Football?
And no, if Alabama cannot defend their own home turf, they don't "deserve" a rematch.
And no, if Alabama cannot defend their own home turf, they don't "deserve" a rematch.
Our clones are obviously going to throw a big monkey wrench into the whole thing, when we beat OU and OSU, but if (by some miracle) they both get by our Clones. I can see OU beating OSU and jumping ALA yet too.
It will take the pollsters avioiding the total brain washing that CBS and ESPN are giving them, but OU plays a much tougher schedule than ALA the rest of the way out. ALA still has one of their big patsies coming up on the schedule. OU plays the tougher schedule over all and will be favored by the computers at the end of the year. The voters really should jump the OU/OSU winner over ALA either way. And I see LSU's oponent as following this pecking order.
1. OSU if they don't lose, done deal.
2. Stanford
3. OU
4. BSU
then 5. ALA/Oregon rematches.
Not only because the rematchee's had their shot, but I think the SOS vs. win rankings will shake out that way anyway.
I put a 1 loss Bama, OU, OSU, Stanford, and probably Clemson in the title game before an undefeated BSU. I've got very little respect for them. Plus, their blue turf gives me headaches during Sports Center.
I'd watch Boise State vs. anybody in the national title game if I was only allowed to watch one non-ISU bowl game...and it wouldn't be close.
I'd watch just about every single other bowl before an Alabama/LSU rematch game. LSU already beat them on the road, great for LSU. Alabama is out if LSU wins out.
BSU/LSU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LSU/Bama rematch
In every way shape and form. Fan interest, national interest, logic, fairness, exciting style of play.
An issue being lost here, is that the Big 12 had the best non conference year BY FAR. In many ways the Big 12 is having the statistically strongest season in the history of college football.
Look at some computer rankings and SOS rankings.
A one loss Big 12 team has a better argument to play LSU than Alabama does to play them a second time when they couldn't win at home.
Here's how I would rank the teams in the shot they deserve at a title as of now:
1.LSU
2.OK State (undefeated, top 5 SOS, lock for #2 if they win out)
3. Boise State (played tougher schedule than Stanford so far, could change next week when Stanford plays Oregon)
4. Stanford
5. Oklahoma (tougher week in, week out, schedule than Alabama)
6. Alabama
Can't see how people have Alabama any higher than that as of now.
Look at some computer rankings and SOS rankings.
A one loss Big 12 team has a better argument to play LSU than Alabama does to play them a second time when they couldn't win at home.
Here's how I would rank the teams in the shot they deserve at a title as of now:
1.LSU
2.OK State (undefeated, top 5 SOS, lock for #2 if they win out)
3. Boise State (played tougher schedule than Stanford so far, could change next week when Stanford plays Oregon)
4. Stanford
5. Oklahoma (tougher week in, week out, schedule than Alabama)
6. Alabama
Can't see how people have Alabama any higher than that as of now.
Absolutely, because the one thing that college football has been missing lately is lawsuits.
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Punted on third down? Since when did Jim Walden start coaching at 'Bama?:shocked:
