Even in Departing I Still Find McD Infuriating....
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I am guessing his best friend doesn't see it as a as slap in the face or he wouldn't let him out of his LOI. And the same with UNI.
He put Jake and the UNI athletic department in a tough bind, that's for sure. And I'm pretty sure that Jake reluctantly signed off on letting Doug out of his LOI (at least informally). Maybe those two are still best friends, probably so. However, as for UNI in general, judging by the response on PantherNation.com, I think it's safe to say that Greg McDermott didn't just burn his bridges there, he NAPALMED them.
He put Jake and the UNI athletic department in a tough bind, that's for sure. And I'm pretty sure that Jake reluctantly signed off on letting Doug out of his LOI (at least informally). Maybe those two are still best friends, probably so. However, as for UNI in general, judging by the response on PantherNation.com, I think it's safe to say that Greg McDermott didn't just burn his bridges there, he NAPALMED them.
Hopefully the new coach on the team doesn't let him practice with another team so he doesn't get injured again.
Man some of you are brain dead if you can't figure out what is going on. Gmac was the coach here for 4 yrs and had no winning record, a growing segment of the fanbase that were making more noise to can him, he really wants to coach his son in college but also knows that it is very likely that he won't be at ISU after next season. Why would any father who puts being a father ahead of being the BB coach want his son to come to ISU and then be in a extremely awkward situation in year two when your dad is fired and you have to decide if you want to stay or transfer somewhere else. So he has his son go somewhere else and what better situation could be better then being coached by your best friend.
Then you get the opportunity to make $9 million over 10 yrs (or vice versa) and are pretty much guaranteed you will be able to coach your son his entire career and things are much more secure at least through the time that Doug is playing ball. Wouldn't take a brain scientist to figure out which situation is best for me if I am in that situation.
I am starting to think the typical Cyclonefanatic poster is one that isn't happy unless he's/she's ******** about something. We ***** because we didn't fire gmac even though we have to pay him $2.5 million to walk so Jamie is a failure because he didn't pull the plug. Now Gmac leaves on his own, after most certainly knowing what is coming up next year at this time, and goes to a school that is paying us $800,000 to take him away saving us a net $3.3 million. So what do we do?????? We ***** because that is a **** poor excuse for him to go and somehow he is intentionally being a ***** to everyone who wears the cardinal and gold proudly.... I can't wait to figure out what the next ***** point is going to be, but I'm sure it will be just as shallow and useless as the ones I have read in this and many other threads.
Didn't we all just get what we wanted? Gmac is gone!!!!!!! Cheer the **** up!
Then you get the opportunity to make $9 million over 10 yrs (or vice versa) and are pretty much guaranteed you will be able to coach your son his entire career and things are much more secure at least through the time that Doug is playing ball. Wouldn't take a brain scientist to figure out which situation is best for me if I am in that situation.
I am starting to think the typical Cyclonefanatic poster is one that isn't happy unless he's/she's ******** about something. We ***** because we didn't fire gmac even though we have to pay him $2.5 million to walk so Jamie is a failure because he didn't pull the plug. Now Gmac leaves on his own, after most certainly knowing what is coming up next year at this time, and goes to a school that is paying us $800,000 to take him away saving us a net $3.3 million. So what do we do?????? We ***** because that is a **** poor excuse for him to go and somehow he is intentionally being a ***** to everyone who wears the cardinal and gold proudly.... I can't wait to figure out what the next ***** point is going to be, but I'm sure it will be just as shallow and useless as the ones I have read in this and many other threads.
Didn't we all just get what we wanted? Gmac is gone!!!!!!! Cheer the **** up!
You know, you really have two options here - be ****** off that McDermott landed on his feet (somewhat) at Creighton, or be excited that he is no longer ISU's problem and not care where life takes him. I choose the latter...
I posted on this yesterday - some fans just weren't going to be happy unless JP broke out the Vince McMahon-style "YOU'RRRRRRRRE FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRED!!!" dismissal, despite the fact that it would have cost us $2.5 large to do so. With this route, not only did it not cost us a dime, we took in $800k in the process, and he's now Creighton's problem. I fail to see where the problem lies, but I guess some people just let their ego get in the way...
I just want to know who the people in Ames are who put those signs of support in McD's yard yesterday. 10-1 his wife put them there so he feels good about himself.
Trust me, I am happy, very happy. Last night I went out, met up with kg-cyclone and the two us tore up the dance floor like you wouldn't believe. The ladies loved it, believe you me!
Anywho, it just seemed to me like McD was taking a shot at ISU on his way out by saying that the main reason he accepted the Creighton job was to coach his son. When someone takes a shot at ISU, I get angry. It's like when someone takes a shot at me in my everyday life, either with words or bullets, I will come after them like a rabid raccoon that just found out it's den has been invaded by squirrels. They are going to get bit! Ya bit!
That's some shortsighted thinking right there. I'm in the happy Mac is gone, no complaints camp, but I can certainly understand where people are coming from. Just because in reality, he should have gotten out before he was fired, the fact is, JP supported him until the end of his contract, but it's clear Mac didn't feel the same way.
If I came up to you and randomly punched you in the face and broke your nose, so that you went to the ER... but while you were there the doctors found out you had a brain tumor that would never have been found if I hadn't have sent you to the ER, does that mean you should be happy with me punching you in the face randomly?
The end doesn't always (completely) justify the means.
When has GMac EVER lied to us? He faced his troubles as well as he could while still maintaining a positive outlook. Nothing in the man's history comes close to him being the truth avoider you post about.
The man is nothing but character and he will succeed at CU the right way. I hope our next HC has half his decency and ethical make-up so we can be proud of both the results and how those results are obtained. I DO use style points when I rate our program. Take every Calipari win and flush them down the toilet - that ain't worth it.
If you think about JP and the medical troubles he's had with his son, only a complete a**h*** would spin GMac's heartfelt reason to coach his son into some kind of ISU slam. He gets to coach his son, he gets to go to a basketball school where his coaching style is dialed-in for success, he gets a 10 year contract and a raise.
So you expected him to say the obvious things that are best left unsaid?
He should've come out and said, "Ya know, Jamie's been real nice to me, he brought me in, gave me a sweet contract and stood by me during the most trying times here. But he was probably going to have to whack me after next year when fan discontent grew to an all-time high because of another struggling years followed by more defections. I just wanted to get PAID!"
Not to mention he can leave for whatever reason he would want anyway, he doesn't have to gratify you. The fact you still have a bone to pick with him is probably pretty telling. There is obviously no way he ever could've won you back over as a supporter as long as he was coaching at ISU, no matter what he did. Just let it go.
He should've come out and said, "Ya know, Jamie's been real nice to me, he brought me in, gave me a sweet contract and stood by me during the most trying times here. But he was probably going to have to whack me after next year when fan discontent grew to an all-time high because of another struggling years followed by more defections. I just wanted to get PAID!"
Not to mention he can leave for whatever reason he would want anyway, he doesn't have to gratify you. The fact you still have a bone to pick with him is probably pretty telling. There is obviously no way he ever could've won you back over as a supporter as long as he was coaching at ISU, no matter what he did. Just let it go.
Man some of you are brain dead if you can't figure out what is going on.
I just love it when people start off their posts by insulting the intelligence of other posters. Surefire way to get people to your point of view there....
Anyway, look, I'm happy that Creighton took McD away and paid us close to $1 million to do it. Best way for him to leave ISU, plain and simple. We lucked out. However, as a UNI alum and fan my issue with it is the way he is taking UNI's best recruit with him so late in the recruiting period. I think that's underhanded, selfish, and a slap in the face to his alma mater and friend.
I just love it when people start off their posts by insulting the intelligence of other posters. Surefire way to get people to your point of view there....
Anyway, look, I'm happy that Creighton took McD away and paid us close to $1 million to do it. Best way for him to leave ISU, plain and simple. We lucked out. However, as a UNI alum and fan my issue with it is the way he is taking UNI's best recruit with him so late in the recruiting period. I think that's underhanded, selfish, and a slap in the face to his alma mater and friend.
Dude you need to let it go. It's over. It's done. Mac...is...gone. There were no "shots" on the way out. He didn't diss us. He left on his own and saved us a boatload had we had to fire him next year. You obviously dislike every single thing about Mac and will spin every single thing related to Mac in a negative way. It's annoying. O, and it's over. No need to freakin dwell on it.
Don't really have a clue what your little "punch me in the nose" story has to do with the issue at hand, but my point remains.
Majority of ISU fans wanted Gmac gone. If it hurts your feelings that GMAC left on his own and saved us $3.3 big ones....which helps us hire a better coach IMO, then I feel sorry for you.
In that case.............the end DOES completely justify the means......
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Perhaps it was a shot. Perhaps it was an attempt at deflecting blame away from his direction to ensure Creighton that they made the right decision in hiring him. But like I said, either you can let that stuff bother you, or you can realize that not only is McDermott no longer our problem, but Creighton paid us $800,000 in order to make him no longer our problem. With that in mind, it just makes me chuckle at such statements, if I pay them any mind at all...
Try being insulted by wanting to find out what is going on with ISU sports only to find just about any thread started to get hijacked by Gmac bashers. Brain dead is a hell of a lot tamer then I'd like to use.
Ok, let me draw the comparisons for you. I punch you in nose - not cool right? just like Mac leaving the program before "the job was done". Due to this punch and your trip to the ER... you find a tumor you would not have found otherwise. Excellent news! Just like Mac being gone. Should you be any less mad about me punching you for no reason? some people feel the same way about Mac stepping out.
Like I said, I'm perfectly happy with the situation. I can just see the angry villagers' perspective.
I'm still convinced that JP knew there was interest in hiring away McDermott, and decided to play "used car salesman" with him the same way that a used car salesman would try to sell the lot lemon: "Oh yeah, this is a great car. One owner, low miles, runs great. This is my favorite car on the lot, and I'm behind this car 100%. Oh, by the way, 'I'm the Car Fox!!!'"
