Flying is hard

IAStubborn

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Management of budgets, management of funding priorities, management of investments... ALL those things are key to both for-profit companies and ESPECIALLY non-profits. If you can't make sound decisions with your limited resources, you are doomed to fail.

I used to work for a non-profit museum and the folks that ran it took that to heart. It is no longer around. They had zero financial sense, zero budgeting acumen, zero ability to make resource decisions.
That just means they were bad administrators. Having a budget doesn't make it a business. Business has one goal - maximizing profit for investors. NPOs and public entities have completly different objectives, rules which govern them and means to maintain and generate the revenue to be solvent. I have watched many business leaders fail or become frustrated by their inability to lead a public institution the way they do a business. It requires some different skill sets, and while many are transferable not all are and many needed attributes for successful public administration are not required for the for-profit sector. So no it is not a business and yes prudent and sound fiscal are necessary but those things are not synonymous.
 
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IAStubborn

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I'm going to ignore your first question because education is not a ******* business. There are positions already there for the concerns that people have with running things efficiently (CFOs and their entire departments) like that. You are working with a completely incorrect assumption that there is no oversight for fund appropriation at educational institutions. Putting someone to run an educational institution as if it were a business is a massively dumb idea because those people are already there.

You don't ask ask a financial adviser/banker/accountant to swoop in and tell the mechanic which of his employees are terrible at their jobs and what procedures he should use in order to improve his mechanic skills, do you?
If you are suggesting only educators can be administrators at universities I very much disagree with you too. Managenent and institutional leaderership are very different skill sets than educators. Hospitals putting Doctors in charge is equally flawed. And no a CFO is not the same as CEO. I would argue that a Public Administrator is different/preferable to a Business Administrator for this task but neither needs to be an educator to lead an educational institution.
 

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Executives use corporate jets all the time for personal trips and then reimburse. Its very common practice and fully acknowledged by the IRS, etc. As long as they acknowledge and treat those trips differently tax-wise, then all is good.
 

IcSyU

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Doesn't the university get audited? If this has been going on for several years, it seems that somebody might have raised a red flag.
In an audit of something the size of Iowa State $12,000 wouldn't even raise an eyebrow.
 

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In an audit of something the size of Iowa State $12,000 wouldn't even raise an eyebrow.

Exactly, audits work on the concept of materiality. And on a audit the size of ISU $12,000 would be considered immaterial.

I should also disclose, a long time ago I did work for the State of Iowa Auditor's Office (they perform the ISU audit) and did work on the ISU audit.
 

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Given how busy he is, it is perfectly reasonable that he forgot to notify Madden, the BoR and the insurance carrier. You guys act like he was trying to cover something up. Give the guy a break.

Just what do you think slush accounts are for? Legitimate expenditures?
What??? How do you forget to tell someone I crashed an airplane?
 

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Rastetter is a puke. He will single-handedly run all 3 Regents schools into the ground.

Well if trump wins, the rat will be secretary of agriculture.
 

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FYI FAA report
http://www.asias.faa.gov/pls/apex/f?p=100:18:0::NO::AP_BRIEF_RPT_VAR:20150714009639I

07/14/15 A CIRRUS SR-22, N176CF, S/N 3757 WAS LANDING RWY 2 AT BLOOMINGTON IL (BMI) AIRPORT AT 1901UTC. THE PILOT REPORTED THAT HE HAD TO USE A LOT OF RUDDER WITH A LARGE CRAB ANGLE TO STAY ALIGNED WITH THE RUNWAY. HE REPORTED A EXTREMELY STRONG WIND GUST, ADDED POWER BUT STILL DROPPED HARD ON THE RUNWAY HITTING HIS RIGHT WING TIP. HE IMMEDIATELY TURNED OFF THE RUNWAY TO THE RIGHT AND RECOVERED AND CAME BACK ON THE RUNWAY, HIS LEFT WING FLAP CAUGHT THE TOP OF A RUNWAY LIGHT. HE PROCEEDED TO TAXI TO THE FBO ON THE FIELD. REPORTED WX DATA: KBMI METAR 141856Z 33013G21KT 10SM SCT040 31/21 A2974. REEXAMINATION OF THE PILOT IS PENDING AS A RESULT OF THIS EVENT.
 

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FYI FAA report
http://www.asias.faa.gov/pls/apex/f?p=100:18:0::NO::AP_BRIEF_RPT_VAR:20150714009639I

07/14/15 A CIRRUS SR-22, N176CF, S/N 3757 WAS LANDING RWY 2 AT BLOOMINGTON IL (BMI) AIRPORT AT 1901UTC. THE PILOT REPORTED THAT HE HAD TO USE A LOT OF RUDDER WITH A LARGE CRAB ANGLE TO STAY ALIGNED WITH THE RUNWAY. HE REPORTED A EXTREMELY STRONG WIND GUST, ADDED POWER BUT STILL DROPPED HARD ON THE RUNWAY HITTING HIS RIGHT WING TIP. HE IMMEDIATELY TURNED OFF THE RUNWAY TO THE RIGHT AND RECOVERED AND CAME BACK ON THE RUNWAY, HIS LEFT WING FLAP CAUGHT THE TOP OF A RUNWAY LIGHT. HE PROCEEDED TO TAXI TO THE FBO ON THE FIELD. REPORTED WX DATA: KBMI METAR 141856Z 33013G21KT 10SM SCT040 31/21 A2974. REEXAMINATION OF THE PILOT IS PENDING AS A RESULT OF THIS EVENT.
Good find. That wind direction and runway five you a crosswind component of 16 knots. Enough to keep most pilots from joy riding but still very doable. More than likely Leath just didn't have much crosswind experience. A contributing factor is the Ames Airport has runways set up to reduce the amount of crosswind you experience.
 

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Glad you're enjoying this, phyllis. Can you bless us with your wisdom and explain why the posters are so dense?

I'm on Phyllis' side. Your whole 'idealistic government does everything the right way' is the whole reason the debt in that sector is out of control. I worked in both the government and private sector. I can tell you the $20 hammer (actually $200 by today's value) is absolutely true. I got done in the private sector for 1/10th the cost, 1/10th the time, and 5 times the quality of what I did in the government sector. And don't get me started on the labor laws protecting absolutely worthless government employees (note: not 'all', just the 'worthless' ones).

Sure. Doesn't everyone want everyone to behave ethically? But c'mon. Even the highest offices don't use the laws they impose on all of us (eg Obamacare). Or give me a nickel for every CEO who has cut corners. It's just reality.

Maybe you don't like Leath. But to hang him out to dry for this? Geez. Sounds like a personal inadequacy issue to me. Instead, I see record enrollments, record endowments, and a University gaining stature. And on the other side I see baaaa baaa baaa (ie sheep following drones).
 

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When there is a damage to a plane, renters don't ever pay for the damage, that is what insurance is for. My guess is the deductible made it not worthwhile to file a claim for the minor damage, the deductible on a 600K plane is probably fairly high. Frankly surprised the university doesn't just self insure except for liability. Leath is paying for it because of the bad pr and because he is obviously able to , not because of anything nefarious. It is the right thing for him to do and should end any claims of impropriety.

Steady crosswinds are easy to deal with, gusty cross winds can be very difficult to navigate as your control inputs need to constantly adjust for the gusts.

Downdrafts and micro-bursts take down airliners, they survive them by avoiding them. If there really was a downdraft he is lucky to have survived. May have just been an excuse though.

Leath flying himself to meet donors makes sense from an economic sense in that the university doesn't have to pay a pilot. It doesn't make sense in that it can look like a special privilege, he is a less qualified and experienced pilot than would likely otherwise be flying, and his duties and priorities on the ground can cloud his judgement concerning weather, duty day, etc. There is a reason rich guys and rock stars frequently die in plane crashes.

After this incident, it would be foolish for the University to allow any employee to fly on their own, this is not a big scandal though.