I am a high school strength and conditioning coach and in college at isu I helped in the weight room when chizik was there. I can tell you. If you get a TRUE 500# squatter in high school they are in the top 1% of high schoolers. It is rare. It's just like the 40 time. You are out of your mind if you think these high school kids reporting they run a 4.4 are actually running a 4.4 or less. That means a high schooler who hasn't had 4 or 5 years of college training is running just as fast or faster than a guy in the NFL combine. High schoolers are doing everything they can to get recruited and that includes exaggerating their numbers. To have 50, 500# squatters seems unreal! If true that is an amazing statistic!!! Yancy does it the right way though, so I can believe it! Strength and conditioning is a marathon not a sprint and he has developed these guys for 4 years! To me, the MVP of this program is Yancy McKnight!
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Your link talks about the "10 strongest players in college football." There are 128 FBS teams, with 85 schollies each. That's 10,880 total FBS football scholarship players. So the 10 guys you're calling out as a comparison to our players are in the top 0.09% of all of FBS. Are you really upset or disappointed (or even surprised) that some of our guys aren't in the top 0.09%?
John Simon, the 6’2, 270 pound defensive tackle for the Buckeyes, left high school with a 450 pound max bench and a max squat of 700 pounds.
Glad to see the players are getting stronger. Now hopefully the coaches don't run them into the ground so we can use that strength on Saturdays.
I never used the word disappointed, but I do believe our team should be setting their goals higher than 400 lbs in the bench and 500 lbs in the squat if they want to compete with the best.
What makes you think their goals AREN'T set higher? At some point they have to take a max, and it is what it is. The goal is always "more" regardless of where you are at that point.
I don't disagree with you, but if we have 50 guys squatting OVER 500 I dare say we have a lot of guys doing significantly more than that. Morrissey tweeted something about Oni Omoile making a 720 pound squat look easy. That number compares favorably to the numbers in the link you provided.
This is great to hear! I would love nothing more than this to translate into our O-Line moving the line of scrimmage in our favor.
Every strength coach we've ever had has been the next best thing or doing it the right way. Until the next guy comes in.
I think that it depends on what the S&C staff focuses on. They had a pic for 400 lb bench club and ISU had 7 players in it. I'm betting that Chizik's teams had at least double that amount. Those kids were working year round in the weight room too. Yancy seems to focus more on core/leg strength. Hopefully, his approach is more effective than Sheppard's.
Maybe it's just bad luck or a lack of identifying talent or other misc things but under CPR it seems our O and D lines have taken a step back since Mac days. Maybe it's also this inconsistency with the training program on how to mold them...like others have said one year it's lean and quick the next it's big and strong.
Steve Loney (Mac' o-ine coach) was an outstanding o-line coach. He spent many years coaching o-line in the NFL after his time at ISU. There are not many coaches in the country who have had Loney's consistency at coaching a specific position group.
