G5...why even

[el tornado]

Only conference champions should be eligible for a 4 team playoff.
And yes Notre Dame needs to join a conference.

I looked at Alabama's schedule and the only ranked teams they beat were LSU, Miss St and Florida State. And Florida State ended up being 6-6.. No idea how the committee can justify this.

Change the BCS playoffs to The Alabama Invitational.

 

[GTO]

I assume that the current G5 schools are still hoping that G5 schools or their school in particular will get included in any future P5 expansion or a new football model.

Technically, if UCF had been ranked high enough they could have been selected. Their schedule was just too easy for them to qualify.

If the playoffs expand to 6 or 8 teams there is a much better chance that an undefeated G5 team like UCF would get in. I don't think the playoffs will last forever leaving out P5 conference champions, so I think expansion is inevitable. Just have to wait to see if G5 teams ever get included.

Their schedule was not much worse than Alabama's schedule.

 

[weR138]

Technically, if UCF had been ranked high enough they could have been selected. Their schedule was just too easy for them to qualify.

Well...yeah. G5's can't get a strong enough schedule try as they might. That's the point; why continue to participate in a system for which you have no shot at a championship?

 

[YeahBuddy]

But if, say, the Associated Press, which will offer a final poll next week goes ahead and puts them at No. 1, they will at least have the credibility behind it.

I think there's a chance that happens, depending upon how much the AP wants to upset the apple cart that is the college football playoff.

The chance of this happening is 0%.

There is a slight chance of maybe a couple voters putting them #1 but no way they finish #1 in the poll.

 

[DurangoCy]

BSU is a perfect example, no way they'll ever be a contender again as a G5

I don't recall the particulars...how close was Houston in 2015?

The other thing that I know BSU and I think Houston had going for them at the time was a few years of sustained success, so they were highly regarded coming into years that they had NC contender teams. UCF was 0-12 and then 6-7 the last two years, so I personally have a hard time believing that some part of this year's success wasn't a weak schedule. ...looking at their history, they seem to be all or nothing, which is interesting.

If they're 12-0 next year, I think voters have to give them some more credit and look seriously at them for the Playoff.

 

[Playboi Carti]

BSU is a perfect example, no way they'll ever be a contender again as a G5

I don't recall the particulars...how close was Houston in 2015?

Idk if they were super close but that was a very good team. Losing to UCONN in week 10 basically ended all hope.

 

[weR138]

Idk if they were super close but that was a very good team. Losing to UCONN in week 10 basically ended all hope.

Houston's problem (and all G5's) will continue to be that it's simply not possible to amass enough quality wins to get even a sniff of the playoff.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Well...yeah. G5's can't get a strong enough schedule try as they might. That's the point; why continue to participate in a system for which you have no shot at a championship?

Well. Teams that were formally in G5 conferences, such as Utah and TCU were awarded with a call up to the P5. So that would be a real reason to continue playing football.

 

[weR138]

Well. Teams that were formally in G5 conferences, such as Utah and TCU were awarded with a call up to the P5. So that would be a real reason to continue playing football.

It seems like this is really the only reward out there...but after ~2024 one would have to think the chances of becoming the next Utah/TCU would diminish quite a bit. And since only a couple teams at best will be chosen it still begs the question...why?

I don't see how this continues w/o the creation of an FBS-AA or Super FCS for the G5s to participate in.

 

[CycoCyclone]

It seems like this is really the only reward out there...but after ~2024 one would have to think the chances of becoming the next Utah/TCU would diminish quite a bit. And since only a couple teams at best will be chosen it still begs the question...why?

I don't see how this continues w/o the creation of an FBS-AA or Super FCS for the G5s to participate in.

And then, with the new 'level' winning that Super FCS national champion ship promotes you to G5, and the lowest level G5 is relegated down to Super FCS

 

[nfrine]

UCF needs to join the B1G MAC division. Then they will have the quality regular season wins like 2015 Iowa or 2017 Wisconsin did.

 

[knowlesjam]

Well...yeah. G5's can't get a strong enough schedule try as they might. That's the point; why continue to participate in a system for which you have no shot at a championship?

If the P5 teams generate their super conference in 2024, then the G5 can have their own playoff set up too. They can use many of the same bowls that are used today...

 

[chuckd4735]

With the way football and CTE are headed, I don’t see this happening unless they shorten seasons, practices, etc.

They need to lessen the amount of hits these kids are taking, not make it more.

FCS has a 24-team playoff...

 

[cyhiphopp]

FCS has a 24-team playoff...

They also play less regular season games, and most of them aren't going to be playing in the NFL.

Kids at Alabama have million dollar futures to worry about and there would be a huge backlash to them playing 16 games in a year with little or no compensation.

 

[tazclone]

I guess. But I think it makes UCF look silly more than anything. There have been loads of undefeated teams that didn't even get a shot at a 4 team playoff witht eh BCS and earlier systems. Most of them didn't proclaim themselves champions.

It just makes me think of when the coaches and AP would split championships because the bowl system didn't put 1 vs 2 in a game together.

UCF does have a gripe about not getting a shot, but I don't think this is the best way to go about it.

Loads? REally?

 

[Cardinal and Gold]

I’m really shocked at the quietness of the Big 10 this year. I was bracing for the loud rants from the Big 10 and schools, but it really never came. Maybe because they realize they have benefited from being selected when they shouldn’t have in years past. The G5 needs to make a fuss with 1 or 2 of the P5 conferences to make change. Should be 8 teams, but even 6 is a step in the right direction. Then all of this conference realignment crap will be a thing of the past.

 

[VeloClone]

If they go to 6 there is zero reason to not make it a full additional round and go to 8. That way there is more room for undefeated G5 teams that may not get their shot any other way.

 

[Cyclone.TV]

FCS has a 24-team playoff...

And I don’t think that is a good thing for those kids. In fact, at some point I expect schools to stop having football at their school. They need to make a dramatic change to the way football is practiced and played at younger levels, college included.

 

[3GenClone]

They also play less regular season games, and most of them aren't going to be playing in the NFL.

Kids at Alabama have million dollar futures to worry about and there would be a huge backlash to them playing 16 games in a year with little or no compensation.

How do we know if these elite players would play all 16 hypothetical games? More playoff games given the current schedule means playing to the latter part of January and the NFL Combine is the first week of March. That’s not a lot of turnaround for players to get ready.

 

[Clonefan93]

If they go to 6 there is zero reason to not make it a full additional round and go to 8. That way there is more room for undefeated G5 teams that may not get their shot any other way.

100% agree. Open it up.