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fcmc

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It's more than likely that we don't have a next year.
Of our two top scorers, Brackins seems certain to turn pro, and this is Gilstrap's only year here. Staiger also leaves, and while I don't see it, a lot of posters keep saying he's a key part of this team.
You can mark down next year as a rebuilding year.
This team has to be successful right now.
If you want to be patient, that's great for you, but the truth is that next year already has disaster written all over it.
 

Clonefan32

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My opinion on this subject that is that if the team this year continues to underachieve, Mac has set himself up to be canned. He came into this year saying he finally has the guys to compete. He gushed about Brackins and Gilstrap's talent, and about the depth the team would have. He set the expectations high, and in my opinion, should be held liable for reaching those expecatations.

While Mac's statements were not as outward as Charlie Weis's "6-6 is not good enough", I think they are in the same vein. When you gush about your players, and your returning experience and talent, you are in essence saying "we have the players, it is my job to get us to where we need to go."

He has not done that.
 

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We need to bring in an assistant coach or a proven head coach from a major conference!

You dont know what you are getting in a top asst coach either. Quinn Synder was the next great thing as an asst coach and he failed bad as a head coach and that list goes on and on. Major conference coaches are expensive. There are a few out there that would be good gets that are proven and you maybe able to get them at a good price. But lets wait until the season ends before we go down this road.
 

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Personally, I would prefer a coach who doesn't say something like "we will recruit outside the state of Iowa if we need to".
 

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Let's all face the facts here... GMac isn't going anywhere during the season... period. So anyone that's posting anything about firing him immediately needs to shut up.

I'm going to give GMac at least til the end of this season. Right now, I'm not happy with what I'm seeing at all. I have no idea what we are trying to do on the offensive side, and I'm sick of watching us get outrebounded every single game by double digits. BUT... I'm willing to give GMac til the end of the year to see what happens?

I do believe that we HAVE to go to the NCAA tourney though. If we can't get there this year... then when does JP think we ever will? GMac himself has talked this team up glowingly all summer and fall. Next year we lose our best players in Brackins and Gilstrap... and have virtually nothing coming in to replace this caliber of player loss.

How many more years of rebuilding are we going to have to go through again?

Every week now we here from GMac how the game was going just fine up til the point that we were basically outcoached. We have enough talent this year to make the tourney. I don't believe anyone that thinks we don't. Our lack of execution, however, falls totally on GMac's shoulders.
 
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It's more than likely that we don't have a next year.
Of our two top scorers, Brackins seems certain to turn pro, and this is Gilstrap's only year here. Staiger also leaves, and while I don't see it, a lot of posters keep saying he's a key part of this team.
You can mark down next year as a rebuilding year.
This team has to be successful right now.
If you want to be patient, that's great for you, but the truth is that next year already has disaster written all over it.



There may be more than just Brackins, Gilstrap and Staiger that won't be here next year. JVB is a senior, Pomlee is a question mark...and don't rule our either Buckley or Colvin if DG keeps getting the minutes clanking jump shots and dribbling to his chest waiting for Brackins to clear for a 22 foot twisting fade-away.
 

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How can you win in the Big 12 with uni dimensional players.

Lucca is a shooter but can't D up

Boozer, Ham can do nice things on D, but are huge offensive liabilities.

DG can D and handle, but cant shoot/score.

Craig is a great offensive player, but struggles with D.


Mac has screwed himself on the recruiting end of things and he is still paying for it.
 

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How can you win in the Big 12 with uni dimensional players.

Lucca is a shooter but can't D up

Boozer, Ham can do nice things on D, but are huge offensive liabilities.

DG can D and handle, but cant shoot/score.

Craig is a great offensive player, but struggles with D.


Mac has screwed himself on the recruiting end of things and he is still paying for it.

good post. no versatility on this team.
 

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How can you win in the Big 12 with uni dimensional players.

Lucca is a shooter but can't D up: He hasnt been shooting well as of late

Boozer, Ham can do nice things on D, but are huge offensive liabilities. Ham should take it to the hole more, Booze needs to calm down and he would be OK on O

DG can D and handle, but cant shoot/score. He got owned on D last night, and isnt finding the open or create on O

Craig is a great offensive player, but struggles with D. The physical part of it


Mac has screwed himself on the recruiting end of things and he is still paying for it.

There are quality players on this team. There is prob more talent on this team that Morgan's NCAA team. The difference is Homan lead that team and did the dirty work. Will and CS mixed it up played hard, physical, and were not afraid to shoot.
 

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What has Brackins done so far this year to suggest he would leave for the NBA. I've seen him get outphysicalled (is that a word?) several times. That's not going to fly at the next level.
Our team as a whole is not strong. We are constantly getting outmuscled. I don't if the S&C guy is to blame for that or if that is a product of what GMac wants.
 

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There are quality players on this team. There is prob more talent on this team that Morgan's NCAA team. The difference is Homan lead that team and did the dirty work. Will and CS mixed it up played hard, physical, and were not afraid to shoot.


I agree this team is a bunch of pansies. But Will B was an NBA point guard that could score. Curtis Stinson was one of the best scorers in ISU basketball history.

People really down play how good those 2 were. Those guys are lightyears beyond anything we have now. Add in Homan and that team has much mroe talent than this one.
 

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I agree this team is a bunch of pansies. But Will B was an NBA point guard that could score. Curtis Stinson was one of the best scorers in ISU basketball history.

People really down play how good those 2 were. Those guys are lightyears beyond anything we have now. Add in Homan and that team has much mroe talent than this one.

Not to mention that team had Rahshon Clark, who fit Morgan's system perfectly.
 

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We need to go after a coach with a proven track record that will bring in the recruits we need to succeed. I'd like to see talks with Rick Majerus started. Don't know why he'd stay in St Louis if a Big 12 job came open. His name alone should keep our existing team in tact and some good talent would definitely come to play for him. Sorry, but after watching last nights performance something needs to change. We don't play as a team at all. Things like boxing out are nearly void. Just a lot of spreading the floor with running jump shots will lose you games every day. Duke is absolutely going to destroy this team(I use this term loosely) because they do all the small tangibles that win games.
 

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We need to go after a coach with a proven track record that will bring in the recruits we need to succeed. I'd like to see talks with Rick Majerus started. Don't know why he'd stay in St Louis if a Big 12 job came open. His name alone should keep our existing team in tact and some good talent would definitely come to play for him. Sorry, but after watching last nights performance something needs to change. We don't play as a team at all. Things like boxing out are nearly void. Just a lot of spreading the floor with running jump shots will lose you games every day. Duke is absolutely going to destroy this team(I use this term loosely) because they do all the small tangibles that win games.

I dont think we should be throwing out names just yet. Yes I did throw out Lon Krugger last night but that was in the heat of battle. Majerus wont come to ISU, the door has been open to him in the past, besides he is unproven at the power conference level.
 

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I dont think we should be throwing out names just yet. Yes I did throw out Lon Krugger last night but that was in the heat of battle. Majerus wont come to ISU, the door has been open to him in the past, besides he is unproven at the power conference level.
Yeah, he just proved he could take a team from a nonpower conference to the NCAA finals. And, if your arguement is not wanting to have a coach who hasn't proven himself at the power conference level, then you're opening a whole new can of worms there. Rick's health was an issue when his name came up before(wasn't he just commentating at the time?) May be a different story now. I've been a big Mac fan from the beginning, but watching how poorly his teams do the small fundamentals has got me wanting a change. I'll be looking for Lon Krugger's name out of you after our next game.
 

ajk4st8

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Fact is Coach Mac has to do ONE thing this year. Win. If he can't it does not matter why. He has had his chances and should and will be fired.

4 years is long enough. He must take us to some sort of post season.


I hope he can take us to post season and get something rolling, but if he doesn't please fire him.

I like the guy as a person. But it is business. Win or you are out. There are hundreds of coaches who can perform to the level that he is performing at.
 

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i did like Mac i thought he was doing some good things and bringing some good players, but after watching last night i was disgusted. Our defense looked clueless. There was absolutely no help at all, and whenever a shot went up everybody for isu stared at it while cal was owning the boards. Then our offense looked like last years. Give craig the ball while everyone watches him do his thing. Ya, he scores but nobody else does and you just cant win a basketball game playing no defense and only having one threat to score.
 
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I agree this team is a bunch of pansies. But Will B was an NBA point guard that could score. Curtis Stinson was one of the best scorers in ISU basketball history.

People really down play how good those 2 were. Those guys are lightyears beyond anything we have now. Add in Homan and that team has much mroe talent than this one.
I'm glad someone finally sees things the way I do. One of the best posts on here!
 

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What has Brackins done so far this year to suggest he would leave for the NBA. I've seen him get outphysicalled (is that a word?) several times. That's not going to fly at the next level.
Our team as a whole is not strong. We are constantly getting outmuscled. I don't if the S&C guy is to blame for that or if that is a product of what GMac wants.

If this season goes into the toilet, I don't see anyway that both Brackins and Gmac will come back next year. Brackins isn't getting any better. He's a career 45% shooter from the floor which is a horrible percentage for a PF. Brackins needed to put on about 20lbs on muscle during the offseason, but doesn't look any different to me.