Guess Who Made The List Of Candidates At MSU

[NetflixAndClone]

I trust CMC a lot more than CPR.

Rhoads made a desperation hire to bring in Jabba the Hut as OC, and from all accounts the culture inside that staff was pretty toxic. CPR was great at motivation, but wasn't any better at managing a coaching staff than Chizik.

I don't get anything close to that read from CMC and this coaching staff. He just did a near-complete refresh of this coaching staff, and so far, I like what I see (save for the results of the OL). At least, I like it enough to believe they deserve a ticket to try to rebuild this thing over the next couple of seasons.

One thing that Iowa State can have as a competitive advantage is continuity with this staff. I don't think Iowa State will win anything if we are in a cycle of hiring a new coach every 3-5 years.

Plus, I think if we were hiring a new coach, quite frankly I'd hope we get someone pretty much just like Matt Campbell. Therefore, I think our best course of action is to ride or die with Matt until he decides to leave on his own.

I always think CPR's last season would have gone differently with Todd Sturdy as the full season OC. We really seemed to start playing a style that worked for us starting with the Texas game. Ignoring the complete meltdown at KSU since we forgot we could kneel the ball and win.

I also agree that the culture was probably pretty toxic. I remember espn even posting tweets from Iowa State players being shocked and even upset that Mark Magino was fired. Makes you wonder what the whole program was dealing with even outside of the staff.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Did Kleiman say it or did his agent say it?


Mat not having an agent may be part of this.

Klieman stated it in an interview he was giving.

Michigan State coaching search: Kansas State's Chris Klieman uninterested in Spartans job

Kansas State coach Chris Klieman said in a radio interview on Wednesday that he 'will not be a candidate' for the vacancy at Michigan State.

www.freep.com

 

[BACyclone]

I always think CPR's last season would have gone differently with Todd Sturdy as the full season OC. We really seemed to start playing a style that worked for us starting with the Texas game. Ignoring the complete meltdown at KSU since we forgot we could kneel the ball and win.

I also agree that the culture was probably pretty toxic. I remember espn even posting tweets from Iowa State players being shocked and even upset that Mark Magino was fired. Makes you wonder what the whole program was dealing with even outside of the staff.

I don't know if it would have ultimately mattered in the eyes of JP, but in a lot of ways I am thankful in hindsight for the debacle at K-State. I was pretty well done with CPR by that point, and I don't think he really was as good a match for Iowa State as is Matt Campbell. The meltdown in that game pretty well sealed the deal for Paul Rhoads, and ultimately I think that's for the best in the long run.

 

[CyGuy5]

I really hope they hire Leipold. Send KU back where they belong

 

[BACyclone]

That's fair. I agree it's completely different in terms of culture. Was mainly comparing results. Recruiting has been trending down, same with CPR. He won with Chiziks leftovers then flamed out. No progression on the OL but I'll give Clanton another year before judging that too much. If he can let the offense trend in the direction we saw last week I'll be less concerned.

I'm not sure you can make a definitive case that "recruiting is trending down". The 2022 and 2023 classes, if you believe in service rankings, have been some of the best of Campbell's tenure as a whole.

However at some positions (particularly OL) we simply have not found the right match for too long.

There, the analogy to CPR probably holds, but I'll assert that the OL was potentially even worse by the end of the Rhoads era.

 

[BigJCy]

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Btw this early into the season/process everyone doing even remotely well will be named as a “candidate”

 

[Jer]

Btw this early into the season/process everyone doing even remotely well will be named as a “candidate”

Exactly, and nobody currently coaching is going to have active dialogue with another school. Their agent may say, yeah there could be interest, but anything beyond that would be incredibly unlikely.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Exactly, and nobody currently coaching is going to have active dialogue with another school. Their agent may say, yeah there could be interest, but anything beyond that would be incredibly unlikely.

Elko seems to be showing some signs lol

 

[Jer]

Elko seems to be showing some signs lol

Shark meet Jump.

 

[isucy86]

It’s really weird position for CMC, a couple years ago he was the hot name, now I don’t think one of those top programs would really consider him.

While I don’t think he is the right fit for MSU a program like sparty would be the logical next step. While MSU isn’t a top program currently in the big ten it is top 5 in terms of ratings and revenue and for the past couple years would have been top 5 in recruiting as well. However with the wild issue that is the Tucker problem plus a lot of other factors I can see the job not being particularly attractive unless someone just wants a big pay out.

Kinda annoying for me personally as I’m back to having Michigan dominate most games because of current competition while sparty is a dumpster fire. Then you flip it for basketball. Was awesome for a couple years when both schools were good/great.

Campbell might have missed his chance to jump to an elite program.

But he's still young, runs his program the right way and has made ISU's program respectable. There isn't a program in the Big12 that dominates Iowa State on the field. That can't be said going back 40+ years.

IMO if Campbell gets ISU back to a bowl game he will get interest from mid-tier Big10 and ACC schools (UNC, UVA, etc.).

 

[isucy86]

For me--

Ohio State
USC
Michigan
Oregon
Penn State
Washington
Wisconsin
UCLA
Nebraska
Iowa
Michigan State
Minnesota
Illinois
Purdue
Maryland
Indiana
Rutgers
Northwestern

I would probably put PSU above Oregon. Also, I would but Illinois just ahead of Indiana. But at that point we are splitting hairs.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Klieman stated it in an interview he was giving.

Michigan State coaching search: Kansas State's Chris Klieman uninterested in Spartans job

Kansas State coach Chris Klieman said in a radio interview on Wednesday that he 'will not be a candidate' for the vacancy at Michigan State.

www.freep.com

He works for his best friend in a low(er) pressure job where he can win 9 games every year plus he's 56. He'll retire there.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

He works for his best friend in a low(er) pressure job where he can win 9 games every year plus he's 56. He'll retire there.

Also I want a younger coach, 56 isn’t crazy old in the coaching world but still want someone younger. Huff and Elko are both in their 40’s that’s who I want to target

 

[qwerty]

Clearly MSU can't smell the rot.

Not over that pile of ham and bacon . . . .

 

[intrepid27]

I don't know about that. It wouldn't surprise if that might have been Pollard's view. Nothing wrong with having a Christian coach though; I think CMC is Catholic, iirc. But I do not believe he wears his religious beliefs on his sleeve. Hard work, good morals and values, yes.

No, this guy was hand picked by Gene. From a Baptist congregation I believe.

 

[t-noah]

No, this guy was hand picked by Gene. From a Baptist congregation I believe.

OK, my bad. I thought you were talking about Campbell, and that's who I was referring to.

I see now that you were speaking about Gene Chizik. Apologies for my error.

 

[Jkclone15]

That's fair. I agree it's completely different in terms of culture. Was mainly comparing results. Recruiting has been trending down, same with CPR. He won with Chiziks leftovers then flamed out. No progression on the OL but I'll give Clanton another year before judging that too much. If he can let the offense trend in the direction we saw last week I'll be less concerned.

Year - class rank
2018 - 55
2019 - 51
2020 - 48
2021 - 61
2022 - 50
2023 - 60
2024 - 53

Recruiting looks pretty stable to me.

 

[dafarmer]

They can’t take the Guess Who yet! They perform in Ames soon!

Klieman stated it in an interview he was giving.

Michigan State coaching search: Kansas State's Chris Klieman uninterested in Spartans job

Kansas State coach Chris Klieman said in a radio interview on Wednesday that he 'will not be a candidate' for the vacancy at Michigan State.

www.freep.com

Klieman is waiting for kirkkk to retire, so he can hire Brian ( what is he qualifted for)?

 

[t-noah]

Klieman is waiting for kirkkk to retire, so he can hire Brian ( what is he qualifted for)?

Brian will finish strong this year and hit his 25 ppg goal by the end of the season. He will keep it rolling next year, cruising at 20.225 ppg. Fans at Iowa begin to love him. He will take over for Kirk in 2 years.

One can dream.