Harry and Meghan Documentary

[carvers4math]

Agreed. I think she enjoys the attention and sympathy. The whole “ooh I got this text from Beyoncé thing” made me roll my eyes. Or how the “documentary” tried to make it sound like she would have saved the monarchy, she was so special, but they were too dumb to see it. It was really just a giant blowie of her.

Now Harry? I think it is incredible that he put her first. I believe he is the more magnanimous of the pair - he is always watching out, taking responsibility for things that weren’t his fault, trying to be kind.

I love powerful women, I just read a fakeness in her.

She seriously got all fangirl over a Beyoncé text? She was in Queen Elizabeth’s family! While I am no fan of monarchy, think of the people and events in the Queen’s life. Just a rundown of how she felt about the prime ministers really would be fascinating. That’s just kind of weird, and strange that it made the show.

Glad at least they put this off until the Queen died, airing family dirty laundry did not seem like her style at all.

Your take on all this seems fair. The brothers relationship seems irreparable and the “Spare” book hasn’t even hit the shelves.

 

[cowgirl836]

I watched. It was entertaining. I thought it was ironic that they want privacy, then they make a documentary that makes people even more interested in their lives. Guessing that was the plan all along.

Again, they did not step back due to privacy reasons.

 

[cowgirl836]

So, I have watched it.

I have sympathy for both Harry and Will. They were born into a life of continual surveillance and performing. You are in the most visible family in the world, and are paid to do it, which leaves this expectation to perform. They lost their mom due to that overexposure, and had to have all of the wreck that was both of their parents on the front page of every newspaper whenever they did stupid ****. (And they did - tampongate, the Andrew Morton book, etc.)

I think it is great Harry was in service for so long. I think it is great that Will and Kate have been so private about their own opinions. And I think that the media has gone too far. And there is definite racism by the media against Meghan.

That said. Meghan married into the most famous family in the world after all of the above drama, and is… surprised when the media invents drama? Also, pretty well everything she said felt performative. She mentions collapsing into someone’s arms several times - I have literally never done that. I think there is a little disingenuousness there, a little bit of acting. She just reads fake.

I can totally get that they didn’t want to play the media and palace games anymore, especially with racism in play. So it was a good move to take themselves off the public’s payroll. I don’t know that we need the constant media exposure, however.

This best aligns with my feelings too. I know there's a lot of racism tied up in this....and at the same time think she seems disingenuous and fake. Not thinking race would be a big deal or not realizing that they family would be very formal? Come on now. And that's just from clips I've seen here and there.

 

[ForbinsAscynt]

Again, they did not step back due to privacy reasons.

They mentioned privacy several times during the doc. The new baby walk, the photogs in Canada, and Tyler Perry’s place, walking the dogs. I don’t care why they stepped back, it was a reoccurring theme.

 

[Pharmacy99]

Again, I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying it probably wasn't easy (losing their mom, dad's affair, etc) being in the spotlight.
Trust me, I really don't care about him but I do think his military career seemed to be honorable from what I remember.

Dad”s affairs only? Dianna was even worse. At least Charles had an affair with one person

 

[JP4CY]

Dad”s affairs only? Dianna was even worse. At least Charles had an affair with one person

What do you think etc means?

 

[Pharmacy99]

What do you think etc means?

Sorry, I missed that. I am just tired of media that portray her as a victim.

 

[JP4CY]

Sorry, I missed that. I am just tired of media that portray her as a victim.

I really don't care about the personal life of any of them. I said that I respected what I had heard about Harry's military service and that there were probably difficult moments growing up in that environment even with a silver spoon.
I think it kind of ties into what I said recently about our POTUS's/Ted Cruz's children:

Being the teenage child of notable politician would suck.
Chelsea Clinton, Bush twins, Obama girls, Baron Trump have all had ****** things said about them. IIRC one of the Bushes told the Obama girls to reach out to them for advice.
I hope Ted's daughter has a support system like that because it sounds like she may need it. Just a sad, sad story.

I'm not trying to make it political with a political post just saying that I have some empathy for children in the spotlight.

 

[NATEizKING]

What started first, Harry and Meghan trashing the royal family or covid? Which will end first?

I just don't understand continuing to trash your family for years at any chance possible when it's the Queen, Charles, Will and Kate that everyone thinks of. If it was one of them that is the cause then ok, but doesn't seem to be the case. At this point it's just $$$.

 

[Remo Gaggi]

I’d rather watch the Kansas City Royals.

 

[isufbcurt]

A lot of people who don't care seem to care enough to comment in this thread.

I'll watch it mainly for Meghan, but Harry is pretty cool too.

 

[Angie]

She seriously got all fangirl over a Beyoncé text? She was in Queen Elizabeth’s family! While I am no fan of monarchy, think of the people and events in the Queen’s life. Just a rundown of how she felt about the prime ministers really would be fascinating. That’s just kind of weird, and strange that it made the show.

Glad at least they put this off until the Queen died, airing family dirty laundry did not seem like her style at all.

Your take on all this seems fair. The brothers relationship seems irreparable and the “Spare” book hasn’t even hit the shelves.

Yeah - the Beyoncé text reading was half fan girl, but also making sure to read on camera how Beyoncé thinks she is an inspiration, etc. She made sure she read every word that was great about her from Beyoncé. (I can’t imagine Beyoncé loved that, seeing as how Meghan admitted they had never even met.)

I am not a “royal watcher,” but watched The Crown before going to England, and again in preparation for the newest season. I think The Queen was an incredibly classy, stoic woman - I agree, learning more about her would be so cool.

This best aligns with my feelings too. I know there's a lot of racism tied up in this....and at the same time think she seems disingenuous and fake. Not thinking race would be a big deal or not realizing that they family would be very formal? Come on now. And that's just from clips I've seen here and there.

I think it is a big personality read, don’t you? Like - a woman can usually tell when another woman is disingenuous if she is really listening. She played the victim and used all of this dramatic language all of the time. Nobody should treat her with racism, EVER, it is true - but paparazzi literally killed your husband’s mom for a story, this can’t be a shock?

I do wonder if part of her is playing on Harry’s obvious need to be a hero and fix things. If she takes on the same “fragile and persecuted” thing Diana did, it is going to feed right into that. I hope that there isn’t that manipulation, even subconsciously.

Going legally after the media for printing her dad’s letter = good
Media saturation to keep making money off of how unfair the media is = gross

 

[Acylum]

Dr. Grande’s take.

 

[dirtyninety]

Dr. Grande’s take.

Dr. Grande needs a dramatic Max Steiner piano score behind this. I imagine the actual production is like an Iowa Caucus commercial on steroids...lots of weepy piano in background; photo montages of little kids smiling at them; Megan embracing grey-haired old people (other than her own father who is no longer politically useful to her); military images of Harry with his escorts and chaperones photo-shopped out. Same target audience: easily manipulated emotive thinkers.

The "military" Harry did have a chance at being admirable....but he turned into a celebrity dupe, and she is a grifter of the highest order and any "accusation" made by her was certainly prenuptial-ly premeditated. The traction her "accusations" get is what is weirdly fascinating....the same old tired trope.

That said, Charles is incredibly punchable.....the only one I could have a beer iwth is Kate.

 

[iowastatefan1929]

I think she sold her soul, if that were even possible. The British royals would be best to do a 100% clean break and never look back.

 

[cycloneML]

Is she a cry tit or what?

 

[cycloneML]

Hard pass. Thought we had a revolution to avoid this stuff.

Can’t imagine hating your family so much you need a docuseries to diss them. Guess it’s better than murdering the little kid heirs to the throne ahead of you like previous royal uncles. Sure school was hard enough without this crap for his nephews and niece.

Seems strange to use the titles still when you hate the people and the institution.

Dude the show is a money grab.

 

[iowastatefan1929]

I think they made a mistake, they could have done a 10 season reality show if they need money, now what, no one give a hoot about the never ending cry fest, who is gonna give them their next pay day, they are cut off from more material and their budget is probably ridiculous with security detail. The female I will not name will have to go back to acting probably. And that is just the practical assessment, I think her rise to fame is very suspect, and the dues always come due and the dues are chaos and destruction.

 

[AgronAlum]

My wife finally got me to start watching this last night and we’re about an episode and a half in. I went into it thinking it would be rich people complaining about rich people problems. I am coming more towards the middle. At a certain point it’s a trade off between being able to have any material thing you’ve ever wanted in life and a peaceful existence where people aren’t in your **** 24/7. It’s basically the life of a celebrity without the breakthrough talent. Harry was born into it and it doesn’t fit his personality but Megan married into it and had to know what was coming.

 

[Cyclones_R_GR8]

I think they made a mistake, they could have done a 10 season reality show if they need money, now what, no one give a hoot about the never ending cry fest, who is gonna give them their next pay day, they are cut off from more material and their budget is probably ridiculous with security detail. The female I will not name will have to go back to acting probably. And that is just the practical assessment, I think her rise to fame is very suspect, and the dues always come due and the dues are chaos and destruction.

I think I read Netflix paid them over $100m for this series