Has Paul Rhoads run out of gas? Is this the year we lay an egg?

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Lloyd88

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At the Waterloo tailgate tour CPR said that to stay on track they need to keep going after kids that fit the program and are very coachable with lots of potential....his staff has done a great job picking the 2 & 3 star kids that will run through a wall for him......getting 4 or 5 star recruits would be great only if they fit the culture of ISU and the team.
 
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Rabbuk

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No one else has said anything to substantiate why they think 7-8 games is realistic other than rainbows and sunshine.
 

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You really haven't said anything of substance to back up your opinion, other than "I think last year was a fluke" and "We haven't upgraded our talent significantly".

I mean, do you watch college football at all? Have you watched ISU football in the past? Did you really pay attention during McCarney's tenure? Or Chiziks?

Yeah, we don't have 5 first round draft picks or a heisman caliber QB. That doesn't mean our talent isn't getting better every year. And how was last year any more of a fluke than 2009? Even in 2010, we won 5 games playing basically the same schedule as last year.

This is a good point, remember in '09 when our back up running back was Jeremiah Schwartz? That was just 2 short years ago. Now our #1 guy goes down and our #2 runs for 750 yards, not to mention Woody bulldozing fools all over the 4th quarter. That's just one example, I know, but it's a good *** example of what is happening in Ames.
 

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No one else has said anything to substantiate why they think 7-8 games is realistic other than rainbows and sunshine.

Here's something simple: Last year, we had 2 QBs with zero D1 experience. We still won 6 games. This year, we have 2 QBs with 13 games combined under their belts. Yet you think we will be worse. Sorry for the sunshine and rainbows. I guess ISU players are the only guys in the country who can't improve from year to year.
 

Rabbuk

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I think if you think Jared Barnett and Steele Jantz are Big 12 caliber quarterbacks you're wrong. But I guess we'll see.
 

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I think if you think Jared Barnett and Steele Jantz are Big 12 caliber quarterbacks you're wrong. But I guess we'll see.

We won with them before, it's not unreasonable to think we can do it again when they are more experienced. There is obviously a legitimate chance we will get 4 wins, but I think we can expect more.
 

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Yes - the last thing ISU needs is a coach with the 2nd most victories of all-time for a D1 Coach, 2 National Championships, 14 CONSECUTIVE seasons of finishing in the TOP 5, an 11 game bowl winning streak during his career and 21 bowl victories:pbaffled:

The sitting on his "***" and coasting as you referenced resulted in never having less than 7 wins during the season, 4 ACC/division Championships and 6 Top 25 finishes. You rival the original poster for ridiculous post of the day.

Also, everyone needs to take a look at ISU recruiting history before making baseless comment - in the past 10 years we have never had more than 2 verbal commits by the end of May. 1 time was last year where it was a family member - Luke Knott - and a family tie-in with Grant Rohach that led to the early commitments. The other time was Phillip Bates (who transferred) and Anthony Green (who was done before he played). Austen Arnaud didn't even commit until June 20 when he was being recruited. We generally start getting some commits during/after summer camps on campus, and I expect we will see that again. If we only have 5-7 verbals heading into mid-November/December, then we can raise the question appropriately. However, I doubt that will be the case as CPR has put together the best staff (throughout his tenure, including Ash and Elliott and now Douglas) that ISU has had since the Earl Bruce days.

Ok... let me put this in terms that someone like you would understand. I avoided this because after I post this the heavens will fall, the oceans will rise, and the Danny Mac faithful will bring on the appocalypse.

Most people agree that Bobby Bowden stayed too long at FSU. He was coasting down the stretch thanks to what he thought was a lifelong deal to be the coach at FSU thanks to his earlier accomplishments, (FYI... having several 7 win seasons at FSU is pathetic considering they are a national power).

To put this in an ISU perspective since we aren't on FSU's level you can look at Dan McCarney. He brought the program out of the toilet, took them to bowl games, etc... and then when he felt he had accomplished enough to secure being the ISU coach for as long as he wanted he started coasting. The results were catastrophic for the program and he got his butt run out of town.

On a similar level that is exactly what happened to Bobby at FSU. His coasting down the stretch led to less then the expected results at FSU and he got his butt run out of town.

Take CPR... he rolls into ISU and takes over a disaster of a program that D-Mac and Chizik left for him and he takes them to 2 bowl games in 3 years (should have been 3 for 3), he is beloved by CycloneNation, just got awarded the fattest contract a football coach at ISU has ever received, and yet still understands that no matter what his results are in the future his job at ISU is never guaranteed. Sounds like a guy that understands his accomplishments early on won't be enough to allow him to coast later on and survive as the head coach at ISU if the results aren't there.
 

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This is a good point, remember in '09 when our back up running back was Jeremiah Schwartz? That was just 2 short years ago. Now our #1 guy goes down and our #2 runs for 750 yards, not to mention Woody bulldozing fools all over the 4th quarter. That's just one example, I know, but it's a good *** example of what is happening in Ames.

Great example. Woody is a better all around back than Schwartz and he is a specialist right now.

I remember watching a game with my buddy the first year of the Rhoads era. I believe it was aTm (could be wrong). At one point he looked at me and said "Our guys don't look like theirs." The funny part was I was just about to say the same thing. I have remembered that throughout the past three years and last year, I could finally say, we look like we belong out there. Our guys look like athletes. James White looks like and explosive guy. Tom Farniok looks like a center. McDonough looks like a nose guard. Laing looks like a DT. All around the roster, guys pass the eye test. Neal may be an exception but his attitude made him passable. I don't remember it being like this and we haven't gotten to see the position group who I believe has been the most improved. I think in 3-4 years, when we look at some of the receivers we have on this team, we are going to say that was a huge improvement. Look at the offer lists. Go look at Patrick Harris' and Quan West's offers. The year before was Ecby and Bundrage. These guys are going to be good.
 

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No one else has said anything to substantiate why they think 7-8 games is realistic other than rainbows and sunshine.

I'm not saying we'll win every game, because we won't. But I don't see a single game on the schedule that isn't winnable. And I'd expect CPR and the players to think the same. :yes:
 

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I think if you think Jared Barnett and Steele Jantz are Big 12 caliber quarterbacks you're wrong. But I guess we'll see.

31/58 ATT, 376 YDS, 3 TD 2 INT

against the #2 team in the country, the team that won the Big 12.

But he isn't Big 12 caliber. Gotcha.
 

Rabbuk

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why is there a qb competition then? If JB is so established?
 
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