Help! I'm Fat - *** Official Exercise and Weight Thread ***

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It's crazy how much better you look in properly fitting clothes. I knew I looked thinner with my big clothes all bunched up and hanging off of me, but with properly sized/fitted clothes I can really see how much I've changed.

To illustrate your point I recently ran across a post-retirement picture of the Yankees C.C. Sabathia and would not have recognized him if it wasn't captioned. He played at well over three bills and with chronic knee issues. Bet his knees feel better. Damn, looks like a retired basketball player now at his 6'-6".

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It's crazy how much better you look in properly fitting clothes. I knew I looked thinner with my big clothes all bunched up and hanging off of me, but with properly sized/fitted clothes I can really see how much I've changed.

Even if I lose 10 lbs from sticking to mainly lean intake I notice how much better I feel which is also a big deal.

Congrats on such a positive outcome!
 

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Even if I lose 10 lbs from sticking to mainly lean intake I notice how much better I feel which is also a big deal.

Congrats on such a positive outcome!
I'd argue that if by 'lean intake' you mean 'low-fat', that is the wrong approach for most. There are 3 macronutrients - fats, carbs, and protein. If you go low on fat, you go high on 1 of the other 2. Protein is relatively fixed. So low fat is another way of saying high carb. I contend that high fat is best for most. A high-fat low-carb diet to lose weight (I know, sounds crazy!). Something like 70% fat, 25% protein, 5% carbs. I believe that is what the human body is wired for, evolved for. The current state of affairs - massive quantities of seed oils and carbs (grains and sugars) everywhere in everything (the 3 core ingredients of processed foods being grain, sugar, seed oil) - is an aberration and is why obesity is so common these days. The low-fat diet and 'low-fat' foods pushed by the govt circa 1980 has coincided with the obesity epidemic.
 
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I'd argue that if by 'lean intake' you mean 'low-fat', that is the wrong approach for most. There are 3 macronutrients - fats, carbs, and protein. If you go low on fat, you go high on 1 of the other 2. Protein is relatively fixed. So low fat is another way of saying high carb. I contend that high fat is best for most. A high-fat low-carb diet to lose weight (I know, sounds crazy!). Something like 70% fat, 25% protein, 5% carbs. I believe that is what the human body is wired for, evolved for. The current state of affairs - massive quantities of seed oils and carbs (grains and sugars) everywhere in everything (the 3 core ingredients of processed foods being grain, sugar, seed oil) - is an aberration and is why obesity is so common these days.
70% fat and 25% protein?? If I make myself a burger and not use a bun, I would have a hockey puck if I had like a 30% lean meat burger, the fire department would need to put out my grill. I would also need to have a little less than a pound starting weigh to get a quarter to third pound finished burger.
 

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70% fat and 25% protein?? If I make myself a burger and not use a bun, I would have a hockey puck if I had like a 30% lean meat burger, the fire department would need to put out my grill. I would also need to have a little less than a pound starting weigh to get a quarter to third pound finished burger.
Well, of course one needn't strive to hit that ratio/target per item (!), but rather overall. Yeah, attaining 70% fat is a challenge, and takes some getting used to. The low-fat dogma dies hard. Eggs - BAD. Butter - BAD. Meat - BAD. Creme - BAD. Skin on chicken breast - BAD. Etc.

The fat on the ribeye - eat it all! Slab of butter on the steamed broccoli - oh yeah. Eggs - daily. Creme in coffee - lots. Bacon, for sure. Aged gouda - often. Sour cream on chuck roast - definitely. 73/27 ground chuck, preferred.
 
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Well, of course one needn't strive to hit that ratio/target per item (!), but rather overall.
That’s good. Was concerned that i was going to have to start eating headcheese or lard. Then I’d be having to hang by the toilet. ;)
 
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Dr. Ted Naiman is a Seattle physician, very bright guy, well-informed on nutrition. He's middle-aged, ripped. His burnfatnotsugar.com is quite informative...
 

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Hey Fellow Fanatics,

This is going to be pretty humbling for me to right this, but I think I gotta or else its only going to get worse. i have a serious problem on my hands. It is one that probably many of us face. We know it's a problem. We know that WE are doing it to ourselves. We feel guilt ever time we make the problem worse. But, we continue with our habits. In my case, it hadn't always been this way, but it is now.

I have got to face the facts. I'm fat. and only getting fatter.

A few months ago, I posted what order at five guys in its respective thread and stated how I spend $25 and don't even get full. I got a barrage of replies about how that's so much food and GIFs of fat bastard from the Austin Powers movies. I did take those as jokes, but I felt AWFUL because I did it to myself.

Well, I've gained 10 pounds since that post. I am now up to 270lbs. I entered college at 170, left 190. My back and knees always hurt. I have EMBARRASING stretch marks on my stomach. I get out of breath just walking up the stairs. My blood pressure is 160/90. None of my clothes fit (and I refuse to bigger clothes since I know it's because I'm gaining weight.

I need things to change or I'm going to die. If not, I'll be stricken with a life of painful knees and disdain for having to walk up stairs.

Therefore, I will begin my weight loss journey on November 1st with a goal of losing 50 pounds by April 1st. If I do not lose the weight, I will donate $400 to one of Cyclone Fanatics Charities. To make sure I'm not cheating, I will be positing my weight every Friday.

I'm writing this post so that I have accountability and to see if anyone else feels the same way and wants to join me.

B.T.W. Feel free to make fun of me for being fat. It will only motivate me.


You did not mention how old you were? but let me tell you losing weight when you are around 50 is 100x harder than at age 25 or 30. I have lost 18 lbs in past 4 months simply by not eating snacks after meals. I eat 3x a day and don't really eat that much honestly. I also got off my ass and started walking alot. That's it. No games..No formulas..No diets. I was around 230 and im now 212. I'm 6'1... Trying to get down to around 190 so i can start jogging again a little bit.

I do believe that everyone stores and uses food differently. My sister is morbidly obese and she hardly eats much at all but what she does it is all carbs and processed foods..mostly. Her body type just doesnt utilize the food like others body type might.
 
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Made first two trips back into Lifetime to do old man weight stuff. Been away for a year plus because of Covid. Use it or lose it is 10X when you get to my age but it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Was anxious to get back to doing the series of shoulder exercises that rehabbed by rotator cuffs. Could feel the difference the last year without them maintaining the rehab. The four cable pull routines the therapist gave me seemed to me to be way more effective than the four mini-weight ones you can do at home. It would be worth it just to go in and do those even if I skipped everything else, which I didn't.

Went early afternoon to avoid the crowd, was all high school aged boys and old men, only a couple of muscle puppies admiring themselves in the mirrors. Damn, I swear the one guy was going to kiss his own biceps. :rolleyes:
 

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Well, of course one needn't strive to hit that ratio/target per item (!), but rather overall. Yeah, attaining 70% fat is a challenge, and takes some getting used to. The low-fat dogma dies hard. Eggs - BAD. Butter - BAD. Meat - BAD. Creme - BAD. Skin on chicken breast - BAD. Etc.

The fat on the ribeye - eat it all! Slab of butter on the steamed broccoli - oh yeah. Eggs - daily. Creme in coffee - lots. Bacon, for sure. Aged gouda - often. Sour cream on chuck roast - definitely. 73/27 ground chuck, preferred.
My lactose intolerance makes the butter, cream and other dairy a challenge.
 

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I'd argue that if by 'lean intake' you mean 'low-fat', that is the wrong approach for most. There are 3 macronutrients - fats, carbs, and protein. If you go low on fat, you go high on 1 of the other 2. Protein is relatively fixed. So low fat is another way of saying high carb. I contend that high fat is best for most. A high-fat low-carb diet to lose weight (I know, sounds crazy!). Something like 70% fat, 25% protein, 5% carbs. I believe that is what the human body is wired for, evolved for. The current state of affairs - massive quantities of seed oils and carbs (grains and sugars) everywhere in everything (the 3 core ingredients of processed foods being grain, sugar, seed oil) - is an aberration and is why obesity is so common these days. The low-fat diet and 'low-fat' foods pushed by the govt circa 1980 has coincided with the obesity epidemic.

Not talking low-fat.

I'm talking not eating things like cookies, beer and pizza, like I did last weekend, which, if I avoid, I lose and keep off weight, and really do feel better. I felt practically hung over this week post-indulgence.
 
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I'm not a huge macros watcher, but I do have more of a protein focus.

Looked at my history (logged all meals for over a year) and I'm consistently at

Carbs - 33%
Fat - 38%
Protein - 29% (162 grams/day)

Really interesting that's where I'm landing while only a protein focus.
 

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My diet has been pretty lousy this week. Didn't plan out my meals and just too much running around. Need to do better next week, of course all I am doing is running around.
 

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You did not mention how old you were? but let me tell you losing weight when you are around 50 is 100x harder than at age 25 or 30.

I certainly feel that now even at a younger age than 50.

I lost about 80 back in 2012-13, when I was 27. Slowly gained all of it back between then and now, with some ups and downs along the way.

Been working at losing again seriously since march and down 34 as of today. Mostly just calorie reduction plus a lot of walking. It feels much harder now than then.

The good thing is its starting to hit a point where the increased energy i've been getting from the weight loss + the increased stamina from all the walking i've been doing is snowballing.
 

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My diet has been pretty lousy this week. Didn't plan out my meals and just too much running around. Need to do better next week, of course all I am doing is running around.
I make it easier by eating oatmeal or a nutri grain bar for breakfast. A basic sandwich for lunch and then my suppers can be about whatever since I’ve only added up 400-500 calories at that point.

If in doubt, grill a steak and you will have a great supper and still have a reasonable meal. Pork chops or chicken breasts if the beef counter gives you sticker shock.
 

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That last paragraph is a non-starter for anyone w/ a family history of cardiovascular disease.
Not necessarily, but you need to focus on certain fats - not all fats are equal. Full fat dairy (sour cream, heavy cream, butter, etc) is good but milk isn't great for low carb due to the sugars it contains. Olive oil and canola oil are good fats, as are tallow and lard.

One other thing to realize is that fats contain 9 calories per gram vs. 4 calories per gram for carbs and protein (alcohol is 7 calories per gram). When we talk about the percentages we're talking about calories, not grams. So eating a high percentage of calories by fat means you are taking in the same calories in a smaller total volume of food. Fortunately fats and proteins are what make and keep you feeling full.

I do think there are many healthy ways to live/eat. For me, carbs are very bad though many other people can eat them without issue. Keto has helped me reverse my type 2 diabetes, which was the entire point of my program; the weightloss was just a happy accident.
 
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