Because I got Netflix for HoC. Yes there are other shows I like but none of them are worth keeping if they are going to roll over because of this.
Hollywood "Casting Couch" Upheaval
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Because I got Netflix for HoC. Yes there are other shows I like but none of them are worth keeping if they are going to roll over because of this.
Blow it all up. Long overdue. The fact that the behavior of Singer and Weinstein are/were non-secrets, even to me... between that what the Haim and Feldman have said (and others have corroborated)...
I'm just frustrated that it took this long. Put them in jail, and go get Polanski to keep them company.
I'm just frustrated that it took this long. Put them in jail, and go get Polanski to keep them company.
I said I got it specifically for HoC. While yes there are other shows I like, none of them are important enough for me to keep it if HoC isn't going to be continued. Not being dramatic just stating my stance.
Hey, guys - let's keep it out of the realm of politics. While I agree that Trump has been a Hollywood figure, and sexual assault/harassment allegations are relevant to discussions about him, we should take it to the Politics forum for specific discussions on that given his current position.
It's not politics though. It's about sexual abuse and assault. A lot of this country doesn't think it's a big deal evidently. So it's not going to be an easy thing to change. It should be an easy thing we can all agree on, but sadly it isn't.
I agree on a personal level. But we just can't do it on the site. I hate to ever do the "slippery slope" thing, but any mention of Trump is just going to turn a debate political right now. We can discuss this without interjecting him, just discuss the harassment climate at large.
I don't think much about it because I think most knew this was happening and chose to ignore it. It was well known so now it's kind of the outrage flavor of the week. Not condoning it, just saying the perception was always there. The phrase sleeping your way to the top is there for a reason.
What I think is stupid is people being overly punished based off incidents that happened over 30 years ago. I'm sure some continued to do it throughout the years, but it's weak to ruin a life based off something that happened when they were a totally different person in a different cultural time. I wouldn't want people hearing the language I used in college even 10 years ago.
What I think is stupid is people being overly punished based off incidents that happened over 30 years ago. I'm sure some continued to do it throughout the years, but it's weak to ruin a life based off something that happened when they were a totally different person in a different cultural time. I wouldn't want people hearing the language I used in college even 10 years ago.
I think this should come as no surprise to anyone. A disgusting part of the human condition as it relates to power. I would guess that the reaction to such advances ranges from shocked-surprised-expected-willing-eager. As far as the lawsuits or accusations go, I would assume that those who would make this event public are mostly in the former categories, though I would guess that some in the latter category do so out of regret. To be clear with that, the burden of responsibility is on the person in the position of power.
Language and rape are slightly different. If something you did 30 years ago comes to light, take your medicine and fess up and display your growth as a person. Youth doesn't excuse bad behavior.
I definitely understand this, and especially so for people in professions like teaching and whatnot, where a single accusation can ruin a career.
But on the other hand, with powerful people, often victims are afraid enough to confront that power that many will not come out until someone else has the courage (and\or has gained enough power of their own to not be at as much risk) to do it first.
Hollywood is certainly not alone in areas where those with power will abuse it. The more replaceable the labor, the more potential for abuse by those in power who can leverage that replaceability for their own gain. And given entry-level actors are dime a dozen, that makes it especially ripe for abuses, sexual and otherwise. I'm sure its not the only industry, but like everything hollywood, anything that happens in it will be visible.
The Feldman accusations take this to another level. Creating a whole pedophile ring and ignored by everyone to protect their Billion dollar industry. It's like Baylor football x100.
I've never been a big movie goer but this has to be at least a part of the declining sales numbers.
I've never been a big movie goer but this has to be at least a part of the declining sales numbers.
The numbers arent down much. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/?view2=ytdcompare&view=releasedate&p=.htm and are pretty flat over the last 20 years to be honest.
Any drop\lack of growth however would be more likely to be explained by these two things:
1- people have better options for in-home entertainment. When more and more people have big screens and multi-channel audio, they can wait a couple months and pay $2 and rent a blu ray. Especially for new franchises, where people don't want to risk their money on something unknown (which is why we're seeing lots of sequels)
2- because of that, the experience in the theaters has become more of a premium experience. Ticket prices are up, but also more expensive addons are offered in terms of food, beverages, etc.
The theater industry certainly isn't dying. I mean hell, even just in the des moines area, we just recently had 2 new theaters open (altoona and flix), a couple more have seen major renovations (johnston and jordan creek i believe) and we have 3 more scheduled for construction (Ankeny, Waukee, Court Ave)
Quite honestly, I'm surprised it has taken this long to come out. Or has it always been out? I know it was somewhat of a joke, but I'm 47 and as long as I've been old enough to know what it means, "Casting Couch" has been a phrase I've always heard. I think the issue is that Hollywood was always a "Boys Club" in the fact that they always have seemed to protect their own, no matter what the issues. Hiding gay actors and actresses, actors who were still willing to work with Roman Polanski after he fled the country, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to associate being gay with what Polanski or Weinstein did, just used it as an example to show how tight of a leash hollywood actually has had on information. The saddest part of all of this, is none of it surprises me. It's just something I always assumed was going on anyways and the Powers that be in hollywood were OK with it and the Actors and Actresses were willing to bend their morality for the ability to work in a profession they desperately wanted. And that's the biggest problem, the allure of stardom is so great for some, they are easily taken advantage of by those with the power to make or break a career.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to associate being gay with what Polanski or Weinstein did, just used it as an example to show how tight of a leash hollywood actually has had on information. The saddest part of all of this, is none of it surprises me. It's just something I always assumed was going on anyways and the Powers that be in hollywood were OK with it and the Actors and Actresses were willing to bend their morality for the ability to work in a profession they desperately wanted. And that's the biggest problem, the allure of stardom is so great for some, they are easily taken advantage of by those with the power to make or break a career.
Youth absolutely does excuse bad behavior. That's why youth aren't charged as adults. That being said, you don't automatically become mentally mature at 18. That's an arbitrary age that's been put on "adulthood". I think most of us would say we are far better at handling situations at 30, 40, and 50 than we were at 19,20, 21.
This just goes to show that when it comes to moral values and political views that those tied to Hollywood need to look in the mirror and see how hypocritical they have been over the years to allow this to happen without saying a peep. How it took this long for all these stories to come out is just pathetic.
I'm 38 and have daughters that are 3.5 years and 6 months old and I am disturbed just watching the news lately how there are so many sick people in this world and how some have just turned a blind eye to their behavior. I would hope that we raise our girls to be able to know when they are in a situation that doesn't feel right that they would be able to walk away from it and tell us about it.
I'm 38 and have daughters that are 3.5 years and 6 months old and I am disturbed just watching the news lately how there are so many sick people in this world and how some have just turned a blind eye to their behavior. I would hope that we raise our girls to be able to know when they are in a situation that doesn't feel right that they would be able to walk away from it and tell us about it.
I guess if I was told I had to suck a guy off or forever be ruined in the industry I was currently in, I'd hit the road. I was asked to do some sketchy things with money by a manager as a teenager and told him no and if he asked again I'd walk. Not that I approve of what anyone did, just stating the fact that you always have the option to walk, just like buying a car. I understand that some people don't feel they have that option, what I don't understand is why they feel that way. I guess they wanted to be in that industry that bad? I just don't get it myself.
