How we gonna make them pay?

[swarthmoreCY]

Not to be overdramatic, but at this point I have no faith we have the OC and on-field ability to exploit the defense. Our offense as implemented is not sound and the execution is not consistent.

 

[kingcy]

WVU and KU dont have the talent at CB that Texas does. Easier to complete quick passes vs that.

 

[psychlone99]

And we also hardly ever make an opposing team's DEs play honest and play containment. Opposing DEs can just pin their ears back on every play against us and come after us, because we don't know how to keep them honest by running end around plays like Oregon always does, or more option plays to the outside too. Oregon will run end around after end around to both RB's and WR's until you decide to make your DE's respect the edges, and then when you do, they gouge you right up the gut. I haven't seen anyone in the country make a defense play the entire field like Oregon does. If you don't cover your responsiblities defensively against Oregon, Chip Kelly will make you pay big time.

Speaking of forcing the opposing defense to defend the entire field, I would hope that this is an area of focus as Rhoads evaluates his offensive staff following the season. I remember shortly after Rhoads got here and hired Herman, the need to implement an offense that could force the D to defend the entire field was something we heard over and over and over again.

That's clearly not working out, and Texas made that painfully obvious yesterday. There was no disincentive for them to vacate huge chunks of the field while sending a majority of their defensive personnel crashing into our backfield. If it's that obvious to Joe Fan, it has to jump off the screen during film sessions.

I wonder what sort of self-scouting we do. I'd love to hear Wally's opinion of our offense in terms of what it takes to scheme against it. I'm sure if he was honest he'd tell you it would be a walk in the park compared to preparing for other Big12 offenses.

 

[CychoCyclone]

Well, after watching us play most of the season, I'm guessing we won't do a darn thing to make them pay for blitzing us.

Until I see us run Ernst Brun on a little slant across the middle right into the spot vacated by the blitzing LBs and our QB take a quick 2 or 3 step drop and dump it over the middle to him in the clear, I will not believe we will ever adjust to the blitzing defenses. OR... maybe even a conventional RB screen where you welcome all the blitzers and then dump off a screen right over the top of them for huge yards.

But instead we stick with our zone read play and run right into it all the time.

But the TE over the middle on blitzes should just be an automatic hot read between the QB and TE. You tell Brun and Steele that if the LB's blitz, then Brun is to just run into the open spot vacated by the LBs and Steele is just to hit him. You don't even run the play that is called. It's just an automatic hot read between QB and TE.

And we also hardly ever make an opposing team's DEs play honest and play containment. Opposing DEs can just pin their ears back on every play against us and come after us, because we don't know how to keep them honest by running end around plays like Oregon always does, or more option plays to the outside too. Oregon will run end around after end around to both RB's and WR's until you decide to make your DE's respect the edges, and then when you do, they gouge you right up the gut. I haven't seen anyone in the country make a defense play the entire field like Oregon does. If you don't cover your responsiblities defensively against Oregon, Chip Kelly will make you pay big time.

I don't want to sound like I think I should be OC, because I'd be horrible at it, but most people know what has to be done to beat the blitz in football. It's common sense stuff. One of the annoucers yesterday commented about how he's seen Texas play a ton this year, and he'd never seen them blitz as much as they did yesterday. Now that should tell you something? Teams watch a ton of film on their opponent, and obviously when teams watch our film they realize that we can't beat a blitz to save our life. We have no answer for it whatsoever.

This this this... why not hot route to a quick read? if the lb doesnt end up blitzing the rest of the play forms itself as it would normally but why not have a quick hot route outlet on what are obvious blitzes?

 

[chuckd4735]

10,000% agree. I said the same thing to a friend about Purdue being hungry, and seeing the Hawks as the only thing on the menu they could possibly get. Kansas definitely looks at ISU as being their ONLY chance for a win. They will play balls out and the coaches will sell out. CPR better have them ready.

Purdue still has Illinois and Indiana...

 

[swarthmoreCY]

This this this... why not hot route to a quick read? if the lb doesnt end up blitzing the rest of the play forms itself as it would normally but why not have a quick hot route outlet on what are obvious blitzes?

I would like to see more inside WR and/or Brun on blitzes, but there have been several times where JB and Jantz have gone with a hot route, only to find the WR did not read the blitz.

 

[BigM]

middle screens and hb slip screens out of the backfield until they stop blitzing. should be easy yards, run the safety's off deep with the TE down the seam and keep the other db's on the boundary with the receivers, have the lineman release after a beat or 2 dump it over the top of the blitz. step 3 = profit.

 

[aauummm]

middle screens and hb slip screens out of the backfield until they stop blitzing. should be easy yards, run the safety's off deep with the TE down the seam and keep the other db's on the boundary with the receivers, have the lineman release after a beat or 2 dump it over the top of the blitz. step 3 = profit.

Yep. Pretty standard football game planning. Is there some reason why we can't execute these and use them?

 

[Judoka]

I would like to see more inside WR and/or Brun on blitzes, but there have been several times where JB and Jantz have gone with a hot route, only to find the WR did not read the blitz.

I think this is a bigger part of the problem than people realize. The QBs can't trust the recievers to be where they are supposed to be when protection breaks down and that makes the passing situation even worse.