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I've been reading all this nonsense about Nebraska and Notre Dame and I can't help but actually want ISU to be in the Big 10. Just a little self-realization.
 

Tobias

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As an Iowa fan I would rather have you guys in the conference than Nebraska. I dislike ISU but despise Nebraska. Every time I see Osbourne I think of Lawrence Phillips. If the Big12 falling apart is bad for ISU it is bad for the state of Iowa so screw the huskers.
 

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As an Iowa fan I would rather have you guys in the conference than Nebraska. I dislike ISU but despise Nebraska. Every time I see Osbourne I think of Lawrence Phillips. If the Big12 falling apart is bad for ISU it is bad for the state of Iowa so screw the huskers.

I really can't understand how anyone in the state of Iowa regardless of fan affiliation would want to harm an in state university in any way. Makes zero sense.
 

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I really can't understand how anyone in the state of Iowa regardless of fan affiliation would want to harm an in state university in any way. Makes zero sense.

I mean no disrespect to some of our finer feathered friends here - but let's be honest. There are more than a couple fans who probably don't realize that Iowa and Iowa State are actually academic institutions and not sports clubs.
 
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Tobias

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I really can't understand how anyone in the state of Iowa regardless of fan affiliation would want to harm an in state university in any way. Makes zero sense.

Unfortunately just like the media a lot of people are looking at this as a sports only issue and it is not by a long shot. ISU could be hurt academically by this which is bad for the state of Iowa. Some of my Hawkeye brethren are being short sighted in their snickering at the ISU athletics predicament by not realizing this is bad for their home state as a whole.
 

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Unfortunately just like the media a lot of people are looking at this as a sports only issue and it is not by a long shot. ISU could be hurt academically by this which is bad for the state of Iowa. Some of my Hawkeye brethren are being short sighted in their snickering at the ISU athletics predicament by not realizing this is bad for their home state as a whole.

Not only are they only looking at it as only a sports issue, but they are only looking at it from a football standpoint. And not just a football standpoint, but only the TV revenue that can be gained from adding schools. It seems like such a small aspect of a university that is being looked at as the only reason to *** teams or not add them. If the whole Iowa State University is damaged because they don't have a big enough television audience for one sport, that is rediculous.
 

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Honest question...

Not only are they only looking at it as only a sports issue, but they are only looking at it from a football standpoint. And not just a football standpoint, but only the TV revenue that can be gained from adding schools. It seems like such a small aspect of a university that is being looked at as the only reason to *** teams or not add them. If the whole Iowa State University is damaged because they don't have a big enough television audience for one sport, that is rediculous.

you state that football is such a small aspect of a university (and I would agree). Say the worst happens and ISU is part of the Mountain West or C-USA or some yet-unformed league. How would that alter the entire school? I can see the ramifications for football, but how would the rest of the university be harmed? Not trying to be a smart-butt, just asking the question.
 

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Re: Honest question...

you state that football is such a small aspect of a university (and I would agree). Say the worst happens and ISU is part of the Mountain West or C-USA or some yet-unformed league. How would that alter the entire school? I can see the ramifications for football, but how would the rest of the university be harmed? Not trying to be a smart-butt, just asking the question.

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Re: Honest question...

you state that football is such a small aspect of a university (and I would agree). Say the worst happens and ISU is part of the Mountain West or C-USA or some yet-unformed league. How would that alter the entire school? I can see the ramifications for football, but how would the rest of the university be harmed? Not trying to be a smart-butt, just asking the question.

If Nebraska and Missouri both end up in our conference ISU will find itself surrounded by CIC schools with far more funding. It will start hurting them for top students and faculty. This is bad for the state not just ISU.
 

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I really can't understand how anyone in the state of Iowa regardless of fan affiliation would want to harm an in state university in any way. Makes zero sense.

I agree and I've never understood the hate between the two fan bases. You and I both know if the roles were reversed, there would be A LOT of Cyclone fans that would be gloating if Iowa was being left out in the cold though.
 

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Not only are they only looking at it as only a sports issue, but they are only looking at it from a football standpoint. And not just a football standpoint, but only the TV revenue that can be gained from adding schools. It seems like such a small aspect of a university that is being looked at as the only reason to *** teams or not add them. If the whole Iowa State University is damaged because they don't have a big enough television audience for one sport, that is rediculous.

Yeah, and that is why it is so revolting. UNL will now claim they need a stadium bigger than Michigan.

Then they will taunt their CIC status:

http://www.cic.net/Home/NewsAndPubs..._Minnesota_Provost_Lists_CIC_Initiatives.aspx
 
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Re: Honest question...

you state that football is such a small aspect of a university (and I would agree). Say the worst happens and ISU is part of the Mountain West or C-USA or some yet-unformed league. How would that alter the entire school? I can see the ramifications for football, but how would the rest of the university be harmed? Not trying to be a smart-butt, just asking the question.

Football is a large part of a university in that ISU joining a smaller conference means lesser national coverage for football games, less chances to enter bowl games if at all, less revenue into a University, less scholarships for other atheletic teams at ISU which means less enrollment. As much as it may not seem to be a factor, a successful team with media coverage has fans that watch them. Those fans have kids that grow up cheering for a team that they can some day dream to go to. It is about marketing and it makes a huge difference in enrollment and money. ISU won't die by any means, but a highly successful football team drives donors and enrollment and that makes a difference for a school.