I do not understand.
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I agree with this. Sam had Bundrage wide open down the Iowa sideline in the 1st Qtr and he throws it in the Iowa bench, you make that play and go up 7 to zip, different game.
Its the OCs job to make the QB comfortable in games, by calling plays that help him out and get him in a rythum. It is QB coaches job to work with the QB so he can put the ball in the right place and make the proper throws. When the are one in the same I guess we all the know the real problem.
Just look at our results wins/losses and whether we went to a bowl with Herman compared to Messingham. That should tell you something...... If recruiting is getting a little better under Rhoads then why are we going backward. I don't believe Messingham will be going off to an elite program unless it is a high school program.
In regards to throwing it out of bounds I commented during the game that it was like Brett Meyer all over again. I think McCarney was pretty turnover adverse so maybe this is the case here also. Telling the qb to throw it only where our receiver can get it thus trying to make the perfect pass erroring on throwing it out of bounds instead of trusting the receiver to make a play. Just a thought.
I'm not a doctor of the zone read, help me out here ont he first two plays. Could we have gotten better results if SR pulls it out and takes it outside?
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I can see your point. I think SR is playing too conservatively. I've gotta believe that it is by choice as opposed to being instructed to do so. I'm not throwing SR under the bus, as many will probably want to accuse me of, but I don't think SR is playing good football. Whether or not it is due to injury, I'm not sure, but I do think he's got a lot more than what we've witnessed the last couple of games. Regardless of what Mess' game plan is, SR can, and needs to, play better for us to have any chance at winning games.
Aren't almost all threads, and subsequent posts, beating a dead horse. Sometimes we just gotta beat the hell outta something! Why not a dead horse?
regarding the pictures, I think SR was too banged up to run the zone read keeper. Like a lion tracking down a wounded gazelle.
Which makes the play call all the more bizarre.
Which makes the play call all the more bizarre.
SR was in a moped accident last week, this is why he was playing that way, he was/is a gimp.
This has enraged me throughout the Rhoads era.
I do not understand why you take the ball, unless offense is your clear strength. It never has been under Rhoads, but he insists on taking the ball anyway. I see no advantage. If you defer, you get to come out and hit your opponent first, setting the tone, and you get the ball to start the second half. IMO, that is a gigantic advantage in a close game.
I would like to remind everyone that Dan McCarney beat the hoks 5 years in a row, that had never been done before.......Good Luck Dan and North Texas.
Messingham:
My starting QB is playing hurt - banged up wheel.
My first 2 plays are zone reads up the middle. Beings my QB is playing hurt, that kind of takes the read out of the zone read. In your pictures, where the QB & RB are 'meshed' (don't know if that is the term or not), QB reads the player (these it looks like DE) and decides whether to give or pull the ball.
So, one can assume it was a zone read look, but beings Sam was injured he was giving the ball not matter what
or, he ran the zone read and decided to give and not keep.
Either way, they are both stupid calls. Why run zone read with a dinged up QB? Why run zone read if you are not reading and giving to the RB no matter what? Beings our OL cannot sustain blocks as well, wouldn't it have been better running a simple, quick hitting dive off-tackle. Would have had a chance to get 3 yards at least that way, especially after looking at these stills.
This is a playbook that has been passed down since the Donnie Duncan days. They should have buried it deep in the bowels of the scoreboard trenches. We have no creativity and have not for a number of years. Maddening...
