If you assume the ACC teams don't leave, what two teams would you choose and why to get to a 12 team conference? Top options would include:
Louisville
Cincy
BYU
UConn
Rutgers
Louisville
Cincy
BYU
UConn
Rutgers
If Big 12 expands to 12, who do you pick if ACC is off the table?
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CycloneErik
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I'd say "No, thanks" to expansion if those are our only options.
10 is fine, and we're stable now. Those teams really don't gain us anything.
10 is fine, and we're stable now. Those teams really don't gain us anything.
I still believe Louisville has a handshake invite and has since the whole thing with WVU went down and they were left on the backburner.
I would have no problem playing with 11.
I would have no problem playing with 11.
I hope you are joking. UNI has a long ways to go before even becoming an FBS team, let alone a Big 12 team.
The Glasgow Diamonds because they're here to football.
Glasgow Diamonds American Football Team - YouTube
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Agreed. And the whole "everyone once in football and twice in basketball" thing you get with 10 is a big plus to me.
My first choice would be to not expand and stay at 10 teams. We're already a stable conference as it is with plenty of revenue coming in for each team. Out of those teams, I'd say BYU and Cincinnati assuming BYU wants to give up their independence.
Geographically, Louisville and Cincy would make the most sense. I'd like to see them added, and don't see a downside. It would get us back to an 8 game conference schedule like the other conferences. The nine game schedule is not a good thing for Iowa State. (I don't like UConn for a fit after going there for last years game)
Fair enough, I would have to say either Nebraska or Missouri then, mostly based on proximity, I think both would be a good fit. Geographically speaking of course.
CycloneErik
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Downside=less money for everybody.
Haven't we pretty much proven that those 2 schools don't even deliver much of their own local market? If they can't, and their football programs are not a big deal in their own states, all they do is dilute to money pool for everyone else.
I don't see an upside.
Haven't we pretty much proven that those 2 schools don't even deliver much of their own local market? If they can't, and their football programs are not a big deal in their own states, all they do is dilute to money pool for everyone else.
I don't see an upside.
Which matters little unless you actually pull those viewers. We don't have a conference network so we don't get dollars from every viewer through their cable bills like the big 10 does. Cincy may be a decent sized market, but how many of those are cincinatti fans instead of OSU or Bengals? How many in louisville's market are UK fans? How many in salt lake are Utah fans.. etc.
When FSU\Clemson\GT were being talked about, those were teams that could potentially justify their addition financially. I'm not sure if you can come up with 2 others that do.
This would only happen if TV wanted to kill the Big East and pay the money for it to happen. But that is now a real possibility. Cincy would have to expand their stadium, but they would do that in a hurry.
I may be the minority, but I don't see a need to expand to 12 for the sake of expanding. FSU and Clemson/GA Tech were no brainers. With them off the table, we should be cautious. The round robin schedule in football and basketball is intriguing to a lot of people across the nation. Thus, our ratings as a conference increase and our product is more viable. I think it would take some special teams to risk that. I'd rather be paid 20 million plus tier 3 revenue/champion's bowl revenue and play 9 conference games compared to playing 8 games with two teams that dilute the conference product (it is arguable that it won't "dilute" the product, but who knows what executives think).
There are 2 major things to consider: 1) an 8 game conference schedule would hurt the strength of schedule of the conference and my actually hinder national title/playoff hopes and 2) ISU wouldn't stand a chance of getting in the big 12 if we were searching for a home today, so we should do as we are told (by the Bevo and his Texahoma buddies).
There are 2 major things to consider: 1) an 8 game conference schedule would hurt the strength of schedule of the conference and my actually hinder national title/playoff hopes and 2) ISU wouldn't stand a chance of getting in the big 12 if we were searching for a home today, so we should do as we are told (by the Bevo and his Texahoma buddies).
Why would we care what size Cincy's stadium was? A school could have about 12 seats for all we care, as long as they deliver tv viewership. We don't share gate, so a team's stadium size is pretty irrelevant.
The Big East is going to be a total mess in the years ahead. Looks like chaos to me. Interesting article here:
How will the Big East respond to the departure of Notre Dame? - CBSSports.com
How will the Big East respond to the departure of Notre Dame? - CBSSports.com
I think i read they voted against the new exit fee. I'd be interested in the legality of that, can a conference just vote to say 'nope, the fee to leave is eleventy billion' whenever they know a team might leave?
