If Big 12 expands to 12, who do you pick if ACC is off the table?

Prometheus

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What? The ONLY reason anyone does stadium improvements is for their own fans and program revenues. It has ZERO to do with increasing their tv value or the value to their conference. ESPN doesn't come to the conference and say 'we think you're worth paying X, but if a couple of the stadiums are made bigger, we'll pay a few million more a year'. They'd have no reason to.



Because for value of a team to a conference, it IS 99% of the pie.




This is where you're wrong. The reason the big east\conference USA are less valuable\successful is the SAME reason, the reason being they don't drive as much tv revenue. Many of their programs, while some may reside in areas of population, still draw second or third or fourth fiddle to other programs whether other college or pro teams. So while they may happen to have plenty of people within X number of miles, they don't have anyone view their games, so ESPN sees no value.
Most read the same exact articles as you do, but yet you are the expert. LOL
 

klamath632

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Been thinking about it, and the two teams we should pursue to join the Big 12 are Florida State and Nebraska. Those would be worth the price of admission.
 

isu5000

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For what’s left for expansion options, assuming ND and the ACC are now for the time being off the market. Lets say geography is not an issue, you have Louisville, Cinny, Rutgers, and UCONN to the East. Rice, Tulsa, Houston, and longshot NIU in the Midwest. BYU, Boise St, Air force, and Colorado St West.

If the Big 12 had to expand back to 12 and location was not a factor, I would say Air force and BYU. Both are large draws and both have good football programs.

If location was a factor and it only seem fitting to add 2 teams from the Midwest or east since Big 12 expanded East with WVU. I would add Louisville and I would take a long shot NIU. NIU has is a respectable sports school located in a good TV market, Chicago area, and still is a Midwestern team. Louisville is pretty obvious, a decent football and basketball school as well a travling partner for WVU.
 

klamath632

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If location was a factor and it only seem fitting to add 2 teams from the Midwest or east since Big 12 expanded East with WVU. I would add Louisville and I would take a long shot NIU. NIU has is a respectable sports school located in a good TV market, Chicago area, and still is a Midwestern team. Louisville is pretty obvious, a decent football and basketball school as well a travling partner for WVU.

No. Just no. You get nothing by adding NIU-- as I explained two pages ago, Chicago's college football team is Notre Dame, and even that's a stretch. Chicago is not a college football town.
 

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Louisville is a great add.


1. Bridges the geographical gap to WV
2. Louisville and WV can keep their rivalry
3. Great basketball add
4. even if they aren't great in football, its another team for the power houses in the conf. to get wins on.
 

CYTV

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The Big XII is not going to expand anytime soon. Every school in the conference is on record as sayng they like 10. The conference schedules for FB and BB are highly desirable. The lack of a FB championship game positions the conference great for the upcomiong 4 team play-off, stability is at an all time high and the money is amazingly good. Some times you just need to recognize success and just live with it. Fortunately, the conference leadeship gets this.
 

CYTV

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The top conference team not in the 4-team championship playoff goes to the champions bowl.
 

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The top conference team not in the 4-team championship playoff goes to the champions bowl.

You are correct, but the Twitter rumor is that the contract between the SEC and Big 12 for the Champions Bowl mandated that both conferences have a conference championship.
 

jbhtexas

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You are correct, but the Twitter rumor is that the contract between the SEC and Big 12 for the Champions Bowl mandated that both conferences have a conference championship.

Why would the SEC care whether or not the Big 12 has a championship game?
 

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