IF we beat K-State and/or Iowa...
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I think you're wrong on the attendance issue. The ONLY saving grace on next year will be the stadium improvements. And I think that's driven a lot of what the increases have been. We're not all that far removed from tickets sales in the 20K's. And JP had to effectively hold the marquee games ransom to do that. New coach = bigger hype. Some big wins = hope.
But you pile two big losing seasons on top of one another... I'm not so sure it doesn't see a pretty steep decline.
Not to mention - there's a TON of revenue to be lost by people who don't USE those tickets.
Lots of big bills to pay. Big bills. I'm a bit worried we've mortgaged the future quite literally.
And I'd agree with your hawk comparison - if we were 8-4, 7-5 while doing it. :wink:
I'm aware of that and said Iowa can run on us all day long. You said Iowa could run all day against anyone, I pointed out why I disagreed with that.
1-2, where I thought we should be and still a slim chance
2-1, pipe dream as of today
0-3, no bowl, slim chance to pass last year
2-1, pipe dream as of today
0-3, no bowl, slim chance to pass last year
He has been here 6 years and the team is getting worse. How can you advocate for more time? He talks the talk and has never walked it with his own guys. He has no mind for strategy or player development. And you better be good at both of those at ISU. Sorry folks, it is not a minority that want a change. The ticket holders and donors will be demanding it.
You cannot win without line play in any offense, period. At ISU you need to develop those lines. Who has developed? Don't say Farniok, because he was good as a RS Fr. This staff has done a terrible job building up the bodies of these young men to the point where we are getting manhandled by FCS lineman. No offense would be successful behind these guys.
I don't understand these people that keep supporting Rhoads. His gameplan against a 1AA school was worthless and he's in his sixth year and his 5th and 6th year teams look to be his two worst ones yet. I've heard so many of these pathetic "young" excuses from blind fans. If our team has so many young and inexperienced players starting this year, the only guy to blame for that is Rhoads for not recruiting his rosters to be contain a solid mix of experienced veterans and talent. Rhoads can't recruit, he can't coach, and he doesn't belong as a head coach. Yes, it sucks because he's such a good guy, but being a good guy doesn't win ball games. Those of you that still expect him to strike gold (yes, someone actually said that), he's in year six! If his team is his worst yet, what makes you think he will ever win 9-10 games a year?
I don't care if he beats Iowa and/ or K-State. Nothing changes the fact that he has a career winning percentage lower than the ISU all-time average and the fact that he's recruiting worse than some Mountain West schools. If it were me, I would've let him go after getting clobbered in that bowl game to Tulsa. ISU won the regular season game and the game the following year and he embarrassed our school in that bowl game. People were bashing me a year ago when I said he needs to go, with so many people calling me a troll. If wanting more and not being tired of being a bottom feeder makes me a troll, than I guess I'm a big troll.
I don't care if he beats Iowa and/ or K-State. Nothing changes the fact that he has a career winning percentage lower than the ISU all-time average and the fact that he's recruiting worse than some Mountain West schools. If it were me, I would've let him go after getting clobbered in that bowl game to Tulsa. ISU won the regular season game and the game the following year and he embarrassed our school in that bowl game. People were bashing me a year ago when I said he needs to go, with so many people calling me a troll. If wanting more and not being tired of being a bottom feeder makes me a troll, than I guess I'm a big troll.
As far as the "money fans" goes - I'm already worried.
And I think anyone who attended the coaches' dinner a few weeks ago may agree.
Freddie gets introduced - the entire place stands and applauds. None of that for JP, CJL or KJ - not expected either.
CPR gets introduced - really half-hearted response and many only stand up out of - I don't know - obligation. It wasn't a particularly warm or enthusiastic reception. And CPR even made a quip about how he only got the ovation because Fred did.
Now this thing is a kickoff for football. The timing, the format is laid out for FB. There just wasn't an enthusiasm. Same holds for the auction. And 18 ticket suite went for a few grand - and it was like pulling teeth to get it started.
I know Fred has succeeded and deserves he appreciation. But I was uncomfortable by the reception CPR got. And if the season continues on this way - it'll only get worse.
Yeah I probably blew the "anyone" out of proportion. They will be able to run it very well against a lot of teams though. And they will definitely be able to run against us.
One other item to note is that this years recruiting class is off to a terrible start and recruits are smart enough to know that Rhoads is on the hot seat and don't want to play for a coach that may not be here next year. Any decent recruit that we've been after has eliminated us by now. If you bring in an experienced guy like Lane Kiffin (he doesn't want to be a coordinator), he will pull in a recruiting class much better than any of the ones that Rhoads ever had by the end of his first full season. Expect us to finish behind Kansas this year in recruiting. That's going to win us games...not! For those of you getting ready to say "it's not about the stars!" Yes, it clearly is because he doesn't get them and the rest of the conference does and finishes ahead of him. Do you see the correlation?
Says you? Doesn't sound like it from my perspective. Only a handful of loud mouths from what I can tell.
Or maybe it had something to do with Iowa giving up 405 yards? Not sure what that has to do with the Scherff.
Don't the money fans come either way to stay in good graces with the upper brass? Or at least keep their spot in line for future benefitS? Like the folks saying they'll quit going to games, but keep tickets...isn't that being fair weather?
I think this weekend stunk.
I think we've had a lot of close games in CPRs tenure (play with our competition mostly) and always seems it's one or two momentum plays (think KSU two years ago before half, Texas Hail Mary last year, etx)
