Illinois matchup
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Didn’t know you were an Illinois native.
As others, I’m an Illinois native and my dad and sister went to Illinois. So I’m sure I’ll hear from my dad this coming week.
Illinois has the star power, with a roster as talented as anyone in the country. We have a group of really tough, hard working guys and a hell of a coaching staff leading them. They get more attention for the flashy play than we get for our gritty, hard nosed play, which I suppose is natural. It will be interesting to see the contrasting styles and how they mix it up.
MGM Sports book:
The Cyclones, who are favored by 2.5 points, are set to face off against the Fighting Illini. The point total for the game is set at 146.5. Lets GO!
The Cyclones, who are favored by 2.5 points, are set to face off against the Fighting Illini. The point total for the game is set at 146.5. Lets GO!
Just looked on Kenpom
ISU defense (2) vs Illinois offense (1)
ISU offense (48) vs Illinois defense (93)
Our offense has really jumped back to where it had been after the little slump. WSU had the #26 defense, so I think we performed very well against them overall.
ISU defense (2) vs Illinois offense (1)
ISU offense (48) vs Illinois defense (93)
Our offense has really jumped back to where it had been after the little slump. WSU had the #26 defense, so I think we performed very well against them overall.
Right on, I'm also not worried about Illinois in the slightest. They have beaten nobody and this would be a massive win/upset for them. They were propped up all year along with Wisconsin to make Purdue look good. Their best win outside of the Big 10 was a nine-point neutral site win over FAU nearly four months ago. That is their only win this whole year over an AP Top 25 team. The only team they've beaten since early January ranked better than #30 in kenpom is Wisconsin. They lost by nine at home to Maryland for f*ck's sake. Shannon hero-ball and having Marcus Domask serve as your point guard works against Duquense and Morehead State and Fran McCaffrey defenses, they are in for a rude awakening on Thursday.
Clones by 18, don't see it being competitive.
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Shannonn is a really good scorer but he’s going to have to earn it. He won’t have hardly any space to operate in and we will do our best to suffocate him.
I’ve watched them play a few times this year and defensively they are about as bad as Iowa. Our pace of play is going to really frustrate Illinois. Defensively if we can get them sped up and force them into tough shots I more than like our chances. Offensively, we can’t settle. Run the offense and make them defend for long possessions and they will fold. IMO when we are able to do that it absolutely fuels what we do on defense.
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Iowa State 84-68 Illinois (Nov 20, 2018) Box Score - ESPN
Box score for the Iowa State Cyclones vs. Illinois Fighting Illini NCAAM game from November 20, 2018 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.
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What Sean May was able to get away with in that national championship was criminal
KenPom has us as a 1 point favorite. Illinois has the #1 offense. We moved back to #2 Defense.
Sean May, I forgot about him. I remember in our tourney game against them in 2005, the commentator was describing his day trying to make it sound like Sean May was some hardass grinder.
"Sean May wakes up every day at 7am to work out. Then, he takes a nap. Then, he goes to class. Then, he goes to practice."
His entire game was being a fat ass and bowling over people. Then everyone was surprised he was a bust in the NBASean May, I forgot about him. I remember in our tourney game against them in 2005, the commentator was describing his day trying to make it sound like Sean May was some hardass grinder.
"Sean May wakes up every day at 7am to work out. Then, he takes a nap. Then, he goes to class. Then, he goes to practice."
ISU's offense, although known for coming off of turnovers, operates at its best when it's making the opponent chase and defend.
When you dig into the numbers, Iowa State's style of play is just more durable in tough/close games as one would expect a S16 game to be. As others have mentioned, Illinois only had one top 25 win all year, and was 2-5 in Q1a games. Iowa State had 7 top 25 wins and was 6-3 in Q1a games. Barttorvik profile analysis puts their win probability in the tournament at 1.1, while Iowa States is 2.8. That's a pretty big disparity among teams in the Sweet 16. Illinois has already overperformed their likely finish position. Their closest comparison to a team we have played is Baylor with a slightly better offense and slightly worse defense. Iowa State last played Baylor nine days ago, winning by 14. Keshon Gilbert went off for 20 points in that game.
Shannon makes me nervous. Guys like that is how win tournament games. Gonna be a good one!!
This has a 2000 vs UCLA feel to it. Everyone was hyping up the Bruins and we blew them out. I’m hoping for a similar result against Illinois.
You are going to hear all week how much better Illinois is offensively but just remember, when you defend you don’t have to score 80 points to win.
