Info on Lard

[Urbandale2013]

What does it hurt? Too much of the below.

That’s on Wigginton not blocking out or Babb failing to get around the screen. It is not good defense but not sure what Lard should do. I’d like to see him get back in there on the rebound but it’s evidence that there seems to be no cohesive plan to deal with that.

 

[capitalcityguy]

What does it hurt? Too much of the below.

Question: is the guy Lard shadowing and not leaving to help underneath a 3 pt shooter? I don't know to be honest, but if yes, was the game plan to not ever let this guy be alone behind the arc? Just playing devil's advocate here....and to be honest, really can evaluate what Lard did or did not do here without knowing the answer.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Best Lard games last season...

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-- doing most of it against the teeth of the Big 12 schedule
-- some absurd offensive rebounding numbers
-- still fouled a lot, which limited his minutes, but he was rolling while he was out there
-- big part of the few Big 12 wins that we did have at home

Best Lard games this season...

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-- the rebounding, especially on the offensive glass, is not there
-- still fouling a lot, not able to make it past 20-25 minutes per night of PT
-- not nearly the offensive productivity, either
-- comparable block numbers, at least, but still lacking in fundamental defense

He was better last year -- especially rebounding.

He has not sucked. He has just never broken out for some big games like he did last season. If I did not know any better, I would say the box scores for the two years are flipped. He played like a sophomore breaking out as a freshman, and he has played like a freshman this season, having his moments but lacking consistency and in fundamental plays.

I think he misses having a second big, and especially a mauler like Solomon, out there boxing out and keeping other guys off the glass so he can go and get it.

Yeah, I'd attribute about 70% of those rebounds to Solomon boxing out and leaving Lard free to go get them.

 

[FinalFourCy]

It is not good defense but not sure what Lard should do.

I’d like to see him get back in there on the rebound but it’s evidence that there seems to be no cohesive plan to deal with that.

Cam clearly is not sure what he should do, either. He’s not the only one on the team that makes mistakes, but he’s a bigger liability than Jacobson.

I agree though, at this point Babb should play as though there’s no help on the screen. If this is as good as Lard can do, just stay in the paint.

 

[Lineup]

to much cancer

 

[Urbandale2013]

Cam clearly is not sure what he should do, either. He’s not the only one on the team that makes mistakes, but he’s a bigger liability than Jacobson.

I agree though, at this point Babb should play as though there’s no help on the screen. If this is as good as Lard can do, just stay in the paint.

He forced a fade-away lofted shot that missed. The issue on that play has to do with the rebound. The screen is actually defended pretty well by Lard. I’m fine if teams want to take something like that. It isn’t an easy shot.

 

[Max57]

What does it hurt? Too much of the below.

That was as bad a possession defensively and effort-wise as I ever want to see again.

 

[capitalcityguy]

Cam clearly is not sure what he should do, either. He’s not the only one on the team that makes mistakes, but he’s a bigger liability than Jacobson.

I agree though, at this point Babb should play as though there’s no help on the screen. If this is as good as Lard can do, just stay in the paint.

But the player Cam was nearest to and guarding did not get the rebound. No...that was two other Baylor players...who had ISU players in the area responsible to block them out and rebound themselves.

And as I asked earlier, was the game plan to never let the player he was shadowing alone behind the 3 pt arc? Without that information , we can't say for sure how well Cam performed on this short clip.

 

[Cydkar]

He is...you can argue whether or not he has earned the right to be rewarded as one, but he is clearly talent-wise. I don't think that is even debatable.

Talent has very little to do with this conversation. Talented players lose coaches their jobs all of the time.

 

[Halincandenza]

I think missing all summer might have had an impact on Lard's development. I am rooting for him to succeed. He is the best low post scorer on the team. He has huge potential on defense as well. Prohm said he had a great week of practice and is excited to see him against Baylor so we will see.

 

[Halincandenza]

But the player Cam was nearest to and guarding did not get the rebound. No...that was two other Baylor players...who had ISU players in the area responsible to block them out and rebound themselves.

And as I asked earlier, was the game plan to never let the player he was shadowing alone behind the 3 pt arc? Without that information , we can't say for sure how well Cam performed on this short clip.

True, you have to know what the game plan was for defending that player in that situation. The last few weeks pretty much everyone has been bad on defense.

 

[capitalcityguy]

Talent has very little to do with this conversation. Talented players lose coaches their jobs all of the time.

It does if the discussion is around who is most talented. Your last sentence may be true, but doesn't either dispute or support who is the most "talented" 5. Two separate arguments.

 

[madguy30]

That was as bad a possession defensively and effort-wise as I ever want to see again.

There's more.

A few times this year the 'close outs' on the perimeter have been Cap City League worthy.

 

[GTO]

This year could have been special with a healthy Solomon Young. I truly believe that.

 

[Frak]

I think that to beat Baylor, they need all three bigs to play with 100% effort. Go hard on the boards and use up fouls if need be. NO easy layups. We have 3 guys that can all play and there's not really a huge dropoff. Play as hard as possible and if there are fouls, so be it.

 

[Frak]

Biggest problem with the team is that no one has really bought into their roles and it seems like they are confused on what their role really is. Poor communication of expectations.

 

[Cydkar]

It does if the discussion is around who is most talented. Your last sentence may be true, but doesn't either dispute or support who is the most "talented" 5. Two separate arguments.

Original post:
Not being a downer, just concerned we won't be going into tournaments with our 5 best players on the court at tipoff. (you can say that doesn't matter, but we are coming out of a late season slide....so something matters).

 

[FinalFourCy]

But the player Cam was nearest to and guarding did not get the rebound. No...that was two other Baylor players...who had ISU players in the area responsible to block them out and rebound themselves.

And as I asked earlier, was the game plan to never let the player he was shadowing alone behind the 3 pt arc? Without that information , we can't say for sure how well Cam performed on this short clip.

Getting the defense scrambling and out of position greatly contributed to nearly 50% OReb %. The closest guy to Lard didn’t get the rebound because Lard was out of bounds. Cam is out of bounds AND watching on the rebound. That’s a win for Baylor.

Lard wasn’t defending anything on the screen. He was in no man’s land.

 

[capitalcityguy]

Getting the defense scrambling and out of position greatly contributed to nearly 50% OReb %. The closest guy to Lard didn’t get the rebound because Lard was out of bounds. Cam is out of bounds AND watching on the rebound. That’s a win for Baylor.

Lard wasn’t defending anything on the screen. He was in no man’s land.

Crap....my bad. I was looking at Shayok this entire time and thinking that was Cam.

 

[capitalcityguy]

Original post:
Not being a downer, just concerned we won't be going into tournaments with our 5 best players on the court at tipoff. (you can say that doesn't matter, but we are coming out of a late season slide....so something matters).

I guess I was defining "best" as most talented, but I did not say that so touche to you on that one.