Interesting in bounds play...

[AdamJGray]

I think our downfall was coach having us tell the ref what we were going to do. In hindsight, maybe we should have let it be a surprise to our striped friend and see if we could have gotten a reaction call.

Funny thing is that the Oakland coach told the ref that they were going to run the play and it worked for them.

Horrible officiating IMO. Player was moving into that screen (offensive foul), flopped, and still got the call. Makes it even worse that the official knew they were going to run the play so it's as if he had his mind made up he was going to call it.

 

[Thomasrickj]

Funny thing is that the Oakland coach told the ref that they were going to run the play and it worked for them.

Horrible officiating IMO. Player was moving into that screen (offensive foul), flopped, and still got the call. Makes it even worse that the official knew they were going to run the play so it's as if he had his mind made up he was going to call it.

The coach telling the ref that this is what's going to happen is about as shady as Findlay Prep and them getting students to go to UNLV. To me this is cheating by asking the refs if they'll call it. Is a 13-19 team, who is 6th place in a lousy conference, that desperate to cheat to play another game where they'll probably get embarrassed? I guess so.

 

[VeloClone]

The coach telling the ref that this is what's going to happen is about as shady as Findlay Prep and them getting students to go to UNLV. To me this is cheating by asking the refs if they'll call it. Is a 13-19 team, who is 6th place in a lousy conference, that desperate to cheat to play another game where they'll probably get embarrassed? I guess so.

Sometimes you need to let the officials know what you are doing so they can properly officiate the unexpected.

I can't remember what game it was but Iowa State football ran a fake field goal last year or the year before and the TE was open down the field. The beaten defender pulled him down so he couldn't catch the pass and no flag was thrown. If the official on that side was notified he might have been paying more attention to the coverage of the receiver and thrown the flag. As it was he was probably looking inside and didn't see the action since the receiver was pulled down just as the pass was thrown. By the time the pass got down field all he saw was a receiver and defender on the ground with a ball that appeared to be overthrown and he had no idea what had happened.

There is nothing bush league or cheating about letting officials in on what you are doing. It really isn't any more cheating than letting an official know that your guys are getting held by a particular blocker or an offensive basketball player is grabbing a defender's hand and falling down or trapping an arm on a rebound and turning so it looks like over the back -- er...a reach in -- make that simply a foul.*




*Damn you, Blum.

 

[BigLame]

Don't recall Bob Knight using this move back in the day. Before Floyd & even Orr used it, I do recall Tom Davis using it at Iowa and executing it perfectly. Think it may have even won the game for the Hawks. Everybody, and I mean everybody, playing HS basketball in Iowa either ran that play or was made cognizant of other teams running that play, after Davis' Hawks used it successfully.

Copying is one of the highest compliments, I suppose. Same reason so many teams in Iowa ran the damn flex offense in the 80's & early 90's (thank God we did not) as well as well as 1-2-1-1 full court presses.

 

[Cyclone1985]

We used to run this in high school...back in 2004... never worked.

 

[tec71]

He needs to reach for the ball and it needs to be out of bounds (he must reach across the boundary plane).

"Reaching through the throw-in boundary-line plane and touching or

dislodging the ball while it is in possession of the thrower or being passed​

to a teammate outside the boundary line as in Rule 7-4.6.b."

Last Sunday at the UNI-Drake women's game, there was two seconds on the clock I think UNI had the lead so it wasn't the same situation but they were taking out of bounds under drakes basket after a drake made field goal. Drake didn't guard the inbounder so you couldn't have set a screen on her. But the UNI player broke from the free throw line to the opposite side of the basket away from the inbounder. The drake player was denying her the ball. The uni player stepped out of bounds and the inbounder threw the uni player the ball completely out of bounds. The drake player was so focused on denying her the inbound pass she reached across the line to tip the pass. It was fast and I think the officials could have swallowed their whistles and basically act like she hadn't broke the plane, but they to together and called it a technical.