Is Fibromayalga Real?

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Exactly, anyone can walk into an ER and say they are in pain but are they actually in pain or are they just looking for pills. Thanks to companies like Purdue Pharma and Pfizer, they made pills so addictive that its almost impossible to tell the difference between an addict and a person with real issues. So with someone who thinks they have fibro they are probably in the ER a lot and it shows up on their charts they want pills for pain management.
Were getting pretty good at identifying people who only want more opioids. Between the EMR and a thorough HPE fibro patients present very differently. People still slip through the cracks and some will just prescribe the meds to get them to leave but its getting better. Problem is that if someone comes to the ED with fibro pain there really isn't anything to do about it except to check to make sure it isn't something else.
 

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Between this thread the the Beard thread I feel like I can just skip med and law school and become a Dr Lawyer hybrid. Thanks CF!


Jesus, just looked at that thread. What an insane story. Not so fun fact, the biggest indicator a partner will eventually murder you is whether or not they put hands on your neck. So that's great.
 

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Jesus, just looked at that thread. What an insane story. Not so fun fact, the biggest indicator a partner will eventually murder you is whether or not they put hands on your neck. So that's great.
Like just generally put their hands on your neck?
 

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Like just generally put their hands on your neck?

Strangulation. Was trying to differentiate from someone choking or if they hit you elsewhere. If they put hands on neck in anger - the chance they kill you in the next year goes up 750%. Think like grabbing someone by the neck up against a wall. They aren't going in with the intent to kill you but it's a major major red flag and escalation.
 

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Jesus, just looked at that thread. What an insane story. Not so fun fact, the biggest indicator a partner will eventually murder you is whether or not they put hands on your neck. So that's great.
Iowa law at least moves the jerks restricting breathing up to the lowest felony level as opposed to the rest of the batterers, who typically don’t get much more than the two day mandatory minimum.
 

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Iowa law at least moves the jerks restricting breathing up to the lowest felony level as opposed to the rest of the batterers, who typically don’t get much more than the two day mandatory minimum.

Two days, lol. After which they emerge enraged and go back to finish what they started.
 
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Two days, lol. After which they emerge enraged and go back to finish what they started.
Yup. And they put that in the 1990’s because typically they weren’t getting anything that wasn’t deferred or suspended in “domestic” situations.
 

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Strangulation. Was trying to differentiate from someone choking or if they hit you elsewhere. If they put hands on neck in anger - the chance they kill you in the next year goes up 750%. Think like grabbing someone by the neck up against a wall. They aren't going in with the intent to kill you but it's a major major red flag and escalation.
That makes sense. Kind of "normalizes" the behavior for the abuser so they go back to doing it and I'm sure it doesn't take much to kill someone when you're crushing their neck.
 
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Not exactly sure.
Perhaps because they don't have the physiological variations that women do, or at least not as many, and their health is not compromised as easily?
I would lean to that men generally are bigger risk takers, whereas women will tend to be more risk averse.
 

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Not exactly sure.
I think it can make it more complex however that is not a reason to write off developing medical treatments for half the population. Especially when federal money is often involved. And sometimes the solutions are not that complex. Like including crash dummies that actually mimic a women's skeletal structure and musculature. They aren't simply bigger children or smaller men. And because women-specific crash dummies weren't used until recently, more women died in car crashes, especially those at an angle like hitting a telephone pole. Because the whiplash to their neck was much different than men even of the roughly the same body size.
I thought we were just talking live studies. Using test dummies or rats, non live human testing should be covered evenly since it is easier to gather those and each test dummy that is supposed to represent that segment will not have the wide range of variables you would get with live people.
 
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I thought we were just talking live studies. Using test dummies or rats, non live human testing should be covered evenly since it is easier to gather those and each test dummy that is supposed to represent that segment will not have the wide range of variables you would get with live people.

I was just discussing medical testing generally. It's an issue across the spectrum. More complex in live human but still very prevalent in other areas too. It's systemic vs situational.
 

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I was just discussing medical testing generally. It's an issue across the spectrum. More complex in live human but still very prevalent in other areas too. It's systemic vs situational.
Very systemic. Think it’s only been the last decade where we have started to understand the differences for how women present with a heart attack compared to men. I didn’t even learn that info from med school I learned it from an attending during a rotation.
 

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Very systemic. Think it’s only been the last decade where we have started to understand the differences for how women present with a heart attack compared to men. I didn’t even learn that info from med school I learned it from an attending during a rotation.

Friend wife of a doctor said some med schools in South still teach that Black people don't feel pain as easily.
 

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Friend wife of a doctor said some med schools in South still teach that Black people don't feel pain as easily.
Not only is that taught in some places it’s actually factored into multiple other things like some believe that black people have thicker skin. It’s weird some of the racial biases that are presented as fact.
 

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My mother has been diagnosed with it for probably 25 years now and suffered for another 10 before that.

I remember when migraines where the "just middle aged hypochondriacs" ailment. But I guess that proved to be real too.
 
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I would lean to that men generally are bigger risk takers, whereas women will tend to be more risk averse.
CG kind of nailed that one - perhaps women tend to have more of the nurturing & caregiving duties, and might be less willing to take risks because of the impact on those they care for?
 
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