Is Fibromayalga Real?

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simply1

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Well she doesn’t take her meds any more from what she has told us. She’s kinda proud of the fact she talked the Dr. into giving her a handicap pass. You tell me if she is faking it. It pisses me off as she gloats about it and only uses the pass when it’s too hot or too cold and no regular spots are open.
You said she never says anything about, and then a fountain of information. Which is it?
 

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I have a friend that continually goes to the hospital only to be told there is nothing wrong with her. They won't even prescribe her pain pills. Why does this condition only affect middle-aged women who are lonely and need attention?
It’s very real and the fact that you asked this question the way you did was disrespectful and pathetic.
 

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It’s very real and the fact that you asked this question the way you did was disrespectful and pathetic.
I believe your diagnosis here for referring to “middle-aged women who are lonely and need attention” is more polite than mine.
 

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Fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome can often be misdiagnosed with each other or other diseases, it’s not always an exact science or easy to diagnose. but for people to question if the person is actually suffering or not kind of annoys me. Obviously these people are suffering in some way and it’s usually a long term problem.
 
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Female viagra was tested on men. Or male rats only. I gotta check but it's insane. Women's hormones make it "too complicated " to adequately represent in animal to human trials. At the cost of women's health and lives, see heart attack symptom training.

23 men and 2 women for alcohol interactions. That's insanity. Men's metabolism body size and hormones will treat all of that differently.
 

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Before my mom passed away, she complained of pain over several years and in many physical locations. When some of us were skeptical, a doctor specializing in pain management told us it didn't matter what we thought. Pain is experienced by the individual and the goal is to help manage it, regardless of whether the cause is easily identified or understood.
 

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As an insurance claim adjuster for 30 years, I first began to see this diagnosis about 1995. Keep in mind, "fibro" means muscle fibers are involved, and "myalgia" just means muscle pain. What I observed is that there is no evidence for this diagnosis. Many illnesses and diseases can be verified with a test. Many physical ailments can be verified with X-Ray, MRI, CT scan, etc.

With fibromyalgia there is nothing to see, no test to prove it. It seemed to be a term developed for otherwise unexplained pain. It could be real, it's just not objective.

I became skeptical because it became such a popular diagnosis for people involved in auto accidents, usually those who retained an attorney. Again, this is not evidence, but I'm just explaining the basis for my doubts.

So, whereas I had been settling claims for a few thousand dollars when people were stiff and sore for several weeks, with fibromyalgia the argument became that the accident didn't just cause temporary muscle sprain or strain. Now it was a debilitating crippling pain with no discernible cure or resolution. And all with no physical or medical proof, but requiring much more money to compensate the victim.

So, this doesn't answer the question, it is just one man's experience.
 

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Before my mom passed away, she complained of pain over several years and in many physical locations. When some of us were skeptical, a doctor specializing in pain management told us it didn't matter what we thought. Pain is experienced by the individual and the goal is to help manage it, regardless of whether the cause is easily identified or understood.

I never understood questioning someone who says they are feeling pain.
 

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As an insurance claim adjuster for 30 years, I first began to see this diagnosis about 1995. Keep in mind, "fibro" means muscle fibers are involved, and "myalgia" just means muscle pain. What I observed is that there is no evidence for this diagnosis. Many illnesses and diseases can be verified with a test. Many physical ailments can be verified with X-Ray, MRI, CT scan, etc.

With fibromyalgia there is nothing to see, no test to prove it. It seemed to be a term developed for otherwise unexplained pain. It could be real, it's just not objective.

I became skeptical because it became such a popular diagnosis for people involved in auto accidents, usually those who retained an attorney. Again, this is not evidence, but I'm just explaining the basis for my doubts.

So, whereas I had been settling claims for a few thousand dollars when people were stiff and sore for several weeks, with fibromyalgia the argument became that the accident didn't just cause temporary muscle sprain or strain. Now it was a debilitating crippling pain with no discernible cure or resolution. And all with no physical or medical proof, but requiring much more money to compensate the victim.

So, this doesn't answer the question, it is just one man's experience.

Why do you assume they are faking?
 

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Well she doesn’t take her meds any more from what she has told us. She’s kinda proud of the fact she talked the Dr. into giving her a handicap pass. You tell me if she is faking it. It pisses me off as she gloats about it and only uses the pass when it’s too hot or too cold and no regular spots are open.
We have a 5 year old with Down Syndrome. We have a handicap tag that we only use if weather is bad. Thoughts?
 

besserheimerphat

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As an insurance claim adjuster for 30 years, I first began to see this diagnosis about 1995. Keep in mind, "fibro" means muscle fibers are involved, and "myalgia" just means muscle pain. What I observed is that there is no evidence for this diagnosis. Many illnesses and diseases can be verified with a test. Many physical ailments can be verified with X-Ray, MRI, CT scan, etc.

With fibromyalgia there is nothing to see, no test to prove it. It seemed to be a term developed for otherwise unexplained pain. It could be real, it's just not objective.

I became skeptical because it became such a popular diagnosis for people involved in auto accidents, usually those who retained an attorney. Again, this is not evidence, but I'm just explaining the basis for my doubts.

So, whereas I had been settling claims for a few thousand dollars when people were stiff and sore for several weeks, with fibromyalgia the argument became that the accident didn't just cause temporary muscle sprain or strain. Now it was a debilitating crippling pain with no discernible cure or resolution. And all with no physical or medical proof, but requiring much more money to compensate the victim.

So, this doesn't answer the question, it is just one man's experience.
How would you scan or test someone who claims they got punched in the ****?

ETA: There are many anatomical/physiological issues that are asymptomatic but only diagnosed due to imaging. As an insurance adjuster, are you going to cover something just because it was found in a scan, even if the patient doesn't need/want it?
 
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