Is McDermott's job security in danger

Wesley

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Why is his job in jeopardy? I'll give you a couple ideas why:

1. Pollard fired good coaches in wrestling, football, and basketball.
2. Doing so spent our reserves (ok, if you get a return).
3. Our programs are not in better shape because of this action (no return).
4. He has mortgaged our finances.
5. Threw away our tradional logo and colors.

Want more?

Yes, I want more. Five wins in football and 18 in bball.
 

cycloneML

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Bill Snyder was brought back to KState to "calm the waters." Maybe we need someone to do that at IState. A guy that could do it will be on TV January 8.
 

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Its time to bring on the Hoiberg tenure, he's been quoted as to saying that he always wanted to come back and coach his Alma Mater. He's a ten veteran of the NBA, he knows what it takes to get to the next level, and how to stay there. Three years ago ISU had a chance to hire their two most popular althletes in the last forty years. They secured Cael before Ohio State and Iowa were able to sneek in there but somehow never gave Fred a passing look. People said he didn't have coaching experience, if Hornachek can be a finalist for the Bulls job without any experience than Hoiberg surely should have been taken seriously. It's not like we're outcoaching anybody these days. With Fred's connections he would beable to put together a staff that would not take a back seat to anyone, and with him we wouldn't have to worry about losing him to the first Auburn that came along. What's the chances Fred wouldn't secure the services of HB?
 

CyGuy33

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Its time to bring on the Hoiberg tenure, he's been quoted as to saying that he always wanted to come back and coach his Alma Mater. He's a ten veteran of the NBA, he knows what it takes to get to the next level, and how to stay there. Three years ago ISU had a chance to hire their two most popular althletes in the last forty years. They secured Cael before Ohio State and Iowa were able to sneek in there but somehow never gave Fred a passing look. People said he didn't have coaching experience, if Hornachek can be a finalist for the Bulls job without any experience than Hoiberg surely should have been taken seriously. It's not like we're outcoaching anybody these days. With Fred's connections he would beable to put together a staff that would not take a back seat to anyone, and with him we wouldn't have to worry about losing him to the first Auburn that came along. What's the chances Fred wouldn't secure the services of HB?


Hiring Fred Hoiberg would be a mistake. What happens if he has three years similar to GMacs? Then the AD has to fire the beloved son. That wouldn't not be a good thing.
 

clintr

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He's job is not in jeopardy till year 5 or if he loses 3-4 players again through the course of this year.

The turn over has been ridiculous and if the trend continues, he should be canned this year. He seems to have his type of players in the system though so I don't anticipate being an issue. He will probably lose 1, but it's to be expected.
 

Darth Cy

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Well, in the beginning I thought it was great that Pollard did not use a committee for his hires. Now I am starting to think that may not have been the best situation. I thought McDermott's team would bring a mental toughness to the program. He was a guy that could coach big men.

Well so far rebounding is terrible and the team has no real player that wants the ball at the end of a game. It seems like they have to draw straws to see who will get the ball because nobody wants it. I don't mind teams that score in the 60's as long as you play good defense and rebound, but this team does neither.

To the people that are making excuses about players leaving and the first year doesn't count are just fooling themselves. I want a coach that will adapt to the players he has not instill a my way or the highway attitude. That is why I think most of the players left. So he dug his own hole and if your not going to count his first year then I am sure you can make up an excuse for every year we don't have a winning season.
 

BigBake

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because his two biggest hires are freaking jokes.

Wait a minute...the coach he hired is being lured away by Auburn...I think that says something about Chiz. Like him or not Chiz will be successful. JP saw that.

McD was coveted by Iowa and several other big programs. We got him and no one else did. He gets time to get his system and players going. I DON't attribute players leaving to him.
 

cybsball20

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McDermott is safe. WJ really left us hanging because we don't have that 6'7 guy who can drive to the basket and rebound and his timing left no opportunity to recruit someone.

Yeah they've blown some close games but they are a VERY young team. Staiger's conditioning or mobility are not up to pre injury levels. We signed Colvin and things are on the right track.

This is a dumb thread and should be shut down.

But the McDermott shills are saying we are better off without Wes, he was a cancer, a horrible defensive player and an overrated offensive player...

6'10 and above? so we're supposed to put our post players on the wing and expect them to drive to the basket? I don't think so.

Iowa's team is not younger than ours. They are actually quite comparable They are more athletic. The fact is that we are plugging holes this year with a bunch of guards. With a player like Rashon, or WJ, it would have been a closer game.

Iowa is much younger than us, I don't care how you spin it.

Iowa's top 6 in minutes goes Freshman, Sophmore, Freshman, Senior, Sophmore, Freshman.
 

CyBobby

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JP has done some good things financially, but the main job of an a.d. at most bcs schools is to hire and/or retain a good football coach (and to a lesser degree a basketball coach) and everything else falls in place. JP had no background in either football or men's basketball, and it has shown in his hires. Not giving Morgan a 4th year when he could have had the whole team returning was a major mistake, and not hiring Brian Kelly was another. We're paying a huge price for both of those mistakes with a two year run of probably the worst years in ISU football/basketball history. Auburn can take Gene if they want him because he's not a proven head coach, and nothing he's done at ISU indicates he will be anytime soon.

HARD TO ARGUE WITH YOUR LOGIN CYKOFAN!!!:yes:
 

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Hoigerg is going to run for Latham's or Boswell's seat in congress....and will get it.

McDermott will do fine eventually for most of our expectations. I said this before and will say it again: basketball program building is much easier than football program building. If we are loyal to Mac now, it will pay off later with Johnny Orr-type success and a good home record and crowd. I will say that Larry E's and Wayne Morgan's tenure made McDermott look a lot better to all of us than maybe things really were objectively(he was schooling those poor cyclone teams). That team I saw last night was one of the poorest I have seen....as bad as some Larry/Morgan teams. I think any Orr team would have out-hearted that bunch I saw last night.

Good bye Gene Chizik. We wish you well. Leave some of your cash so we can move on please. We need Cyclone blood in the football program post-haste because the dark-days are ahead for at least 3 years.
 

BigBake

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Everything I see wrong with our play is fixable. It's just a matter of getting it fixed.

Defense, defense, defense. Screw offensive practice for a while. I say D drills until we hold a team under 50.

There was NO excuse for our guards getting burned by their guards last night. Our boys just plain weren't moving their feet. Craig was out of the position so many times I lost count.

Again...all things that can be fixed.
 

cybsball20

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Everything I see wrong with our play is fixable. It's just a matter of getting it fixed.

Defense, defense, defense. Screw offensive practice for a while. I say D drills until we hold a team under 50.

There was NO excuse for our guards getting burned by their guards last night. Our boys just plain weren't moving their feet. Craig was out of the position so many times I lost count.

Again...all things that can be fixed.

and all things that should have been fixed in pre-practice drills and pre-season practice.
 

kingcy

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What does it look like to other coaches when you fire 2 coaches in a row after only 3 years on the job? Both coaches took over messes and didnt get a real chance to do anyting. Who would want to take that risk? That coaching search maybe like the Morgan search, with no one wanting the job. Pollard wont fire McD for another year atleast. With Chizik leaving then having to fire is BB coach Pollard might as well follow both of them out the door.
 

Clones85'

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Woulda coulda shoulda....and I highly doubt it wasn't addressed during those times.

Whether it was addressed or not isn't the point!!!

Is it working? Are we getting better? You can try as many things as you want, but if you still suck, than you are not doing your job as a coach.


Iowa drove by us all game yesterday...all game!! Greg sat there and did nothing. He didn't make an adjusment

Craig Brackins shoots some horrific shots. He constantly shoots when he is out of position and doesn't pass out of the double. It is McDermott's job to coach him on that

DG has started dribbling the ball right in front of the defenders nose. We are not running plays to get Lucca the ball. Iowa played straight up man on us last night. How many screens did we set for Lucca? PATHETIC
 

cybsball20

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We just aren't athletic enough in the backcourt to sit in the in-your face man to man defense. I have never really understood Mac's defensive philopsophy but I cam out of a sagging, man to man, help side system. All of our guys are right on their man instead of the ball-you-man. Only thing is, we aren't quick enough to stay with them, we get drove by and back cut to death. I just don't see how we can afford to not go to a zone D.
 

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