Is this another "one and done" Kansas team?

twocoach

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that probably says something about isu's defense. ku guards are not all that good.
Tharpe is 3rd in the Big 12 in assists per game and 4th in assist/turnover ratio. That's all Kansas needs him to do. They don't need him to be a primary scorer; just to be able and willing to score if it comes to it. His defense sucks is his biggest problem. If Kansas' problem is that they only have the 3rd/4th best PG in the conference then that's a good problem to have.
 

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That doesn't change the facts. There is no such thing as a Big 12 ref. I know it doesn't fit into the ISU victim model, but that is the facts.

And it's also a fact that some guys do a LOT more Big 12 games than others across the country. I mean what, you think they threw all their names in a hat and randomly chose? Guess Higgins won the lottery if he likes working in the Big 12.
 

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guard play will be their downfall. got to have outstanding guards to win much at the dance. kansas's are below average for elite teams.
That's where I stand also. Not that they can't make a deep run with their guards but if they go out early it will probably be guard play. So much of basketball is about making shots. If KU gets hot in the tourney they could go a long ways, if they're cold one night and the other team is shooting lights out they could go home. Pretty much how the tourney works.
 

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Another prime example of why you go pro after your freshman year when your draft stock is at it's highest: James Michael McAdoo.
 

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What is hilarious about the whole Embiid staying/going pro situation is Kansas fans thinking it would be wise for Embiid to come back to college when he is likely a top 5 pick. Yet, they call Marcus Smart's decision to come back the dumbest decision of any college player ever...

FUNNY!!!!
 
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They aren't bad just because they have a few losses. They will go out when they come up against a big time D. Don't think they lose to a lower seed considering they'll be 3-4.
 

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What is hilarious about the whole Embiid staying/going pro situation is Kansas fans thinking it would be wise for Embiid to come back to college when he is likely a top 5 pick. Yet, they call Marcus Smart's decision to come back the dumbest decision of any college player ever...

FUNNY!!!!

I don't think Smart's decision to come back was dumb by any means. He just failed to make any of the improvements he set out to make. If you say you want to improve your jumper to be better ready to play in the NBA and then a year later you are still shooting the same bad percentage it means that you didn't put in the work necessary to improve. I don't see Embiid as having a "motivation to improve" problem. The kid has improved by leaps and bounds over the season.
 

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I think Embiid should go but if he doesn't feel ready then stay. Smart staying wasn't dumb and frankly unless you need the money I wish more kids like Smart stayed. It makes college basketball better.
 

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I think Embiid should go but if he doesn't feel ready then stay. Smart staying wasn't dumb and frankly unless you need the money I wish more kids like Smart stayed. It makes college basketball better.

Unless you have court side seats
 

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I think Embiid should go but if he doesn't feel ready then stay. Smart staying wasn't dumb and frankly unless you need the money I wish more kids like Smart stayed. It makes college basketball better.
Agreed. Sounds like the new NBA commish is going to try to bump the age limit rule out to two years. I hope he is successful. Smart will still get drafted in the lottery and will be just fine.
 

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Agreed. Sounds like the new NBA commish is going to try to bump the age limit rule out to two years. I hope he is successful. Smart will still get drafted in the lottery and will be just fine.
I certainly hope that is true and happens soon. Will make recruiting more stable. Now if the N.C.A.A. would just move the 3 pt circle out to NBA range, timeouts every 5 minutes vs. 4 min, 30 sec. shot clock and dump the possession arrow, we would have a better game again.
 

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Agreed. Sounds like the new NBA commish is going to try to bump the age limit rule out to two years. I hope he is successful. Smart will still get drafted in the lottery and will be just fine.


I think your earlier point is a reason that Smart isn't a lottery guy: He knew that his jumper needed work and he didn't improve it. That speaks either to ability or dedication. That's a lot of money for a question mark in that area.

I'd say that this season, beyond the obvious courtside incident, raises questions about leadership that make him better as a late pick, if a pick at all.
 

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I think your earlier point is a reason that Smart isn't a lottery guy: He knew that his jumper needed work and he didn't improve it. That speaks either to ability or dedication. That's a lot of money for a question mark in that area.I'd say that this season, beyond the obvious courtside incident, raises questions about leadership that make him better as a late pick, if a pick at all.
Most NBA guys realize that college kids are just stupid kids. They draft on talent. NBA GM's seem to believe that a work ethic can be taught as players mature. What can't be taught is being a 6'5" bull of a PG that is a natural leader of teammates. He'll still be Top 10. GMs of a team that needs a PG will be too afraid of being the guy that passed on him.
 

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I certainly hope that is true and happens soon. Will make recruiting more stable. Now if the N.C.A.A. would just move the 3 pt circle out to NBA range, timeouts every 5 minutes vs. 4 min, 30 sec. shot clock and dump the possession arrow, we would have a better game again.
I don't think they would change the TV timeout timing, but they could at least cut the number of team timeouts available.They don't need five. They should also allow players 6 fouls instead of 5. No one wants to watch the backups play. I agree on the 30 second shot clock, the possession arrow vs. an actual jump ball and the three point line.
 

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I don't think they would change the TV timeout timing, but they could at least cut the number of team timeouts available.They don't need five. They should also allow players 6 fouls instead of 5. No one wants to watch the backups play. I agree on the 30 second shot clock, the possession arrow vs. an actual jump ball and the three point line.

But what would Scott Drew do if he couldn't call 4 time outs in the opening minutes of a game?
 

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But what would Scott Drew do if he couldn't call 4 time outs in the opening minutes of a game?
Better than Roy Williams who would end a lost game with two timeouts still sitting out there unused... I swear sometimes he forgot that he could actually do something to help stop a run by the opponent.
 

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I don't think they would change the TV timeout timing, but they could at least cut the number of team timeouts available.They don't need five. They should also allow players 6 fouls instead of 5. No one wants to watch the backups play. I agree on the 30 second shot clock, the possession arrow vs. an actual jump ball and the three point line.

Pretty sure they already did for Withey.