Is your trust in CMC lost to fix this offense in 2023 and beyond?

Raiders70

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you realize alot of people projected us to go 5-7 or 6-6 this year, right?
It's not that we are losing it's how we are losing. Its good that we are not hopelessly outclassed from a talent standpoint but its not good at all that we do the same dumb **** game after game. In years past, we have gotten better as the season progressed. The last couple of years that has changed.
 

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Sorry I got off track
It's a good point though our defense does such a good job of making adjustments at half time that any offensive adjustments at half would be great. Like that drive we saw on Saturday but not just for the script.
 

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The point I'm making is halftime adjustments aren't the solution and other teams don't seem great at them either.

Looking simply at other offense's ability to do that against our elite defense probably isn't the best metric to say that.

Most of the defenses we play are nowhere near that level.
 
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I don't. Although the line play has been leaky at times, he has had as much or more time to throw than many of his predecessors. You might bring up WR drops, but drops happen every season, every team etc. He throws too many INT and isn't seeing the field well. He is not the primary issue, but he is exacerbating it rather than alleviating it at this point. It's on the coaching staff to help him along, but no, I do not believe we should feel bad for him. It's not like the QB situation out east, where Ferentz was willfully trotting an ineffective Petras out there every week to get slaughtered by the opposing team and the media. Thank God Iowa's schedule lightened up, or I was going to be very concerned for his mental health. Dekkers has 2x more talent than Petras does, and he has better pieces around him. So no, I do not feel bad for Hunter Dekkers.
Iowa would be lucky to have 2 wins with Petras behind our offensive line. He would get murdered. Dekkers is at least some what mobile. I feel horrible for Dekkers when Manning is not smart enough to play to Dekkers strengths.
 

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The point I'm making is halftime adjustments aren't the solution and other teams don't seem great at them either.

My point wasn't that CMC needs to make more halftime adjustments. It's that he needs to make adjustments, period. We are watching the same bad decisions happen again and again, week after week. It's starting to feel like Groundhog Day, and it's indicative of a coaching failure -- not a talent problem.
 

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My point wasn't that CMC needs to make more halftime adjustments. It's that he needs to make adjustments, period. We are watching the same bad decisions happen again and again, week after week. It's starting to feel like Groundhog Day, and it's indicative of a coaching failure -- not a talent problem.
It is ******* bewildering. Maybe we are missing some perspective. But honestly its like we went from winning games because we had excellent coaching to losing games because of poor coaching with the same coaches.
 

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Campbell has fired coaches and overhauled schemes in the past. I think we will be fine, despite this year's massive frustrations. If Manning and Myers are retained and our first play from scrimmage every game next year is a -2 yard rush from shotgun between the center and guard, then come talk to me
 

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The most important position group in football is the OL. You need to build your entire team around the OL. 2nd most important is DL, but our DL is fine. I'd give our OL a grade of D.... at best.

So, at a minimum, the person in charge of the OL has to go IMO..... and that is Myers.

If CMC feels that's the only issue with the offense, then maybe you don't get rid of Manning.... but I'd have to disagree with that. Manning has shown, IMO, that he doesn't know how to draw up a good game plan that utilizes what you have to work with, and has shown no ability to make in game adjustments either.

If you know your OL is a weakness, then you come up with a game plan to work around that.... but we have done no such thing. We continue to run our RB's right up the middle behind a poor OL and expect to get results from that. No misdirection or anything. Especially on short yardage.... that alone is a reason to get rid of Manning as far as I'm concerned. Continually going in shotgun and running delayed handoffs or QB runs up the middle in short yardage only shows that you have no clue what you're doing.

So IMO, Manning has to go too.... if for no other reason than to give fans some hope and promise going into next year to buy tickets.
 
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My point wasn't that CMC needs to make more halftime adjustments. It's that he needs to make adjustments, period. We are watching the same bad decisions happen again and again, week after week. It's starting to feel like Groundhog Day, and it's indicative of a coaching failure -- not a talent problem.
A completely fair perspective, honestly. But if we look around the entire CFB landscape are there a high percentage of teams making significant in-season adjustments? What are the biggest adjustments we as fans from our offense in a season? Actual personnel changes (e.g. Purdy becoming QB) have the highest variability, but that doesn't appear to be in the cards anywhere.

So then what?
 

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A completely fair perspective, honestly. But if we look around the entire CFB landscape are there a high percentage of teams making significant in-season adjustments? What are the biggest adjustments we as fans from our offense in a season? Actual personnel changes (e.g. Purdy becoming QB) have the highest variability, but that doesn't appear to be in the cards anywhere.

So then what?

What the what. Start by NOT LINING UP IN SHOTGUN ON 3RD/4TH AND INCHES. I'm not talking about launching nukes from orbit. There are dozens of things right now that are broken, correctable, and have not changed, despite the fact that we are losing game after game.
 

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I was having this conversation with a couple friends over the weekend. CMC has to find a way to transition the overall offensive gameplan to someone other than Manning - perhaps even some new coaching blood in general. CMC has had essentially the same staff for most of his tenure, and on the offensive side it is just not working at this point. This could be an easy fix, but it likely requires CMC to go outside his long time coaching tree.