I doubt Alabama's DCI would even sniff their football team
ISU Gambling Megathread
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Sports betting isn't legal in Alabama so it's probably not an issue and/or would be much more difficult to catch since you can't just download and use draft kings or whatever.
I've asked my parents theirs as a beneficiary for things
I very much doubt the Hunter’s mom actively set up an account for him to bet on college sports including Iowa State football. He could have likely asked his mom for her SS # claiming it was needed for a million things.
I do believe that his Mom and Dad likely did whatever they thought was needed to try and get him out of this mess when they found out what he did and they knew he was in big trouble. This includes likely claiming mom was placing the bets. As a parent, I could see that happening given your son likely has ruined his life with his stupid decisions.
This is likely what happened the more I think about it. If so that's some ballsy manipulation on his part.
I just don't know how you could be that stupid thinking that would be sufficient cover for you not getting caught.
People do stupid things though, I watch alot of those true crime shows though and murderers are always "caught on camera buying duct tape at Wal-Mart" or Google searching "How to make a body dissappear/Will I go to hell if I murder someone" on their home computers.
I don't think he ruined his life. A few years playing D1 football doesn't make a life.
I would say between this and his casino video (I'm sure that's not Casino 1 for him) there's good odds he's got a serious gambling problem. An addiction. 10 or 10000 bet.... doing that while you know it could crush your future in something you love doing, are good at, and gets your tons of attention.... now that's a crackhead addiction problem. THAT will ruin a life. Hopefully he gets help. Finishes degree. Lands a job. Gets married. Raises a family. Ya know normal stuff.
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No, he hasn't ruined his life, but he made a choice which will likely dramatically change the course of his life.
If he hasn't done this already, I've got a feeling Matt Campbell is going to have a sit down with Dekkers and make him understand that the quality of his life going forward will be determined by how he responds to this adversity. I think that's what Matt does best.
I’d love to know what a 20 year old needs to use his parents SSN for when said 20 year old doesn’t have a job or so emerging like that to make someone a beneficiary.
Ok, so Hunter stole the SSN off another document and set up the account by himself which is identity theft/fraud. Either that, or his parents set it up/allowed him to set it up with their permission and are complicit. There isn’t an in between.
I guarantee Hunter isn't the only kid to use his parents for a gambling app. I talked to a kid last night that did it. I think Uwazurike's defense is valid and charges for all will be dropped. Doesn't change the NCAA issues.
One thing that irks me is how stupid these kids are, they were told not to gamble and they aren't even smart enough to hide it. It would of course be best for them to not gamble at all, but it doesn't take much to find a non athlete student over 21 to make the bets for you (I know for sure one recent basketball player not named in this mess that did it this way).
Hindsight is 20/20 on this. On the surface, setting up a gambling account under your name then giving your kid access to it is pretty innocuous. I can't imagine there are many of us here that if you did would ever envision being the subject of a DCI investigation and being charged criminally. And I'd imagine when he set it up he did so with the explanation he'd be betting on pro sports.
So yes, in hindsight it was a dumb thing to do. But I can also see where this would initially seem pretty innocent.
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Well they tried to hide it using their parents information. Now what they should have done is actually had their parents place the bets from wherever the parents lived. Then we wouldn't be in this situation.
* For future reference I do offer crime consulting as part of my CPA practice
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A non-athlete? Absolutely I understand it happens. The part you are omitting or ignoring is what student athletes go through as far as getting educated on not gambling. Is it “innocent” as far as 99% of the population goes? Sure I can agree with that. This, however, is not that case. And just a reminder, betting on pro sports still gets you suspended and they just lowered the penalties for that this year. Not when the account was created.
Before “NCAA rules are dumb” comes into the conversation, pro sports have gambling rules in place as we have recently seen. So while you might not agree, it’s not exactly a new thing.
Is it though? Maybe I'm a square but I can't imagine a scenario where my underage kid asks me to set up a sports betting account for them under my name for them to use and I do it. Not because of some potential DCI investigation, but because it sounds so incredibly stupid and wrong.
Does the program or the athletic department have a basic code of conduct that covers such things? If not, then that might be a good place to start..especially given the money involved with the NIL business. To me if there was such a thing, then why was he not dismissed for violating it in the spring when we first heard rumblings of this situation? Oh, lawyers. Nevermind.
My kids are still well under the age to ask me to do something questionably legal so I guess I have no idea how I'd react. But to my point, even if you had some concerns I can't imagine ever even imagining it gets to the point you're being investigated by the DCI. It's like using your parents Netflix password and having the FBI show up or something. You may know it's not entirely on the up-and-up but you probably never expect a full blown law enforcement reaction.
I fully agree that they probably never assumed it would get to this point, but helping your kid illegally gamble on sports is quite different than sharing a Netflix password.
Most parents are idiots, so I don't know that that's a bold statement. But what things are you suggesting?
