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ISU Student and Champion Golfer Celia Barquin Arozamena Murdered at Coldwater Golf Course
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- Mar 27, 2006
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Too late.
https://law.justia.com/cases/iowa/court-of-appeals/1991/90-414-0.html
Warning, it's pretty graphic.
Why should we have to provide a person like this three squares a day, a roof over his head and a warm bed to sleep in for the next 60 plus years? This is exactly why Iowa should have the death penalty. $31,000 a year on average to house a prison inmate. I’ll do the math...$1,860,000 in today’s dollars for one inmate. That, my friends, is a lot of teacher salaries, educational supplies, tax savings, reduced tuition, infrastructure improvements, cleaner water. Need I go on?
Great in theory but if you think that is the kind of thing they would funnel their new found riches to then I’ve got a timeshare opportunity in arkansas I’d like to talk to you about.
IIRC a full-blown brawl took place in the courtroom between two of the brothers also.
$31,000 would not cover one teacher's salary, much less all that other stuff. I agree with your point though.
Pollard doing a great job in an impossible situation with this press conference
The cost of civilized society rather than living like a ******* savage in a third world country. 3 Million people in Iowa, so your cost PER YEAR for that prison stay? I'll do the math for you, $0.01.
I really hate the first question asked by Randy Peterson... What a terrible time to ask "Is there a safe place" to the Athletic Director. Ask that to the police chief
Not even Hilton Coliseum is safe Randy. Gfd he’s just awful at his job.
The problem is even with the death penalty you still have the appeals process that takes several years and spends a lot of money.
I always wonder if he thinks before he speaks. I think I know the answer to that question but you'd think someone with his experience would understand situations...
We're at a philosophical crossroads. We used to warehouse such people in institutions until we became "enlightened" by keeping such people out and about in society...arguing from the standpoint of compassion.
Well, ya gotta pick your poison. I've got a friend from high school who is mentally ill. (schizophrenic) It's been a combination of highs, lows, intreatment, outtreatment, alcoholism, multiple OWIs, and homelessness. Meds work for a while and all is going well until it isn't going well. The voices in his head are pretty convincing and inebriation is something he can't quit turning to in order to squelch the voices.
There most certainly is a case for busting such encampments in that the more comfortable people become, the less likely they are to seek treatment and try to change their lives. In addition, if you keep them moving they certainly aren't causing problems in your back yard.
A place like St. Paul can certainly make the argument that the situation they provide is cheaper, but only cheaper to the point in which it doesn't encourage a disproportionate number of people to go there. It's not cheaper if everyone ships people to such places and dump them off, but it certainly would be cheaper for Ames. They like Ames have the benefit that winter serves as a pretty decent deterrent...something you don't see in places like San Francisco, etc.
In cities like Ames all across the country which have stringent zoning and occupancy requirements for property owners, they shouldn't look the other way when such encampments spring up. It's an insult to taxpayers and other members of the community who are required to follow such laws. Unfortunately, the best answers are those which too many would deem as cruel.
Well, ya gotta pick your poison. I've got a friend from high school who is mentally ill. (schizophrenic) It's been a combination of highs, lows, intreatment, outtreatment, alcoholism, multiple OWIs, and homelessness. Meds work for a while and all is going well until it isn't going well. The voices in his head are pretty convincing and inebriation is something he can't quit turning to in order to squelch the voices.
There most certainly is a case for busting such encampments in that the more comfortable people become, the less likely they are to seek treatment and try to change their lives. In addition, if you keep them moving they certainly aren't causing problems in your back yard.
A place like St. Paul can certainly make the argument that the situation they provide is cheaper, but only cheaper to the point in which it doesn't encourage a disproportionate number of people to go there. It's not cheaper if everyone ships people to such places and dump them off, but it certainly would be cheaper for Ames. They like Ames have the benefit that winter serves as a pretty decent deterrent...something you don't see in places like San Francisco, etc.
In cities like Ames all across the country which have stringent zoning and occupancy requirements for property owners, they shouldn't look the other way when such encampments spring up. It's an insult to taxpayers and other members of the community who are required to follow such laws. Unfortunately, the best answers are those which too many would deem as cruel.
No, but allowing the fox den to be built next to the chicken coop is asking for trouble.
He thinks before he speaks like I did when I was 10. I realize I have a question/comment/answer and raise my hand or start talking, realize I hadn't thought through how I wanted to present it, and then just fumble over my own words the rest of the time I am speaking.
Seems like that is part of the problem. Hidden, where no one felt vigilance was required.
That's a perfect description. What an embarrassment to our local sports media
You should feel bad for how dumb some of the posts you've made are.
Be vigilant as you want. Bad people do bad things and in a lot of cases there was nothing anyone could do. There is no perfect answer. Deal with it.
There are what, 350 million people in the United States? There are bad apples among us. Period. No matter how stupid the good people get with their ideas, nothing will ever stop evil completely.
