I don't know if anyone else heard Jamie Pollard's pre-game interview on the radio, but he was pretty confident about the game. He even was predicting a great chance for the team to be 5-3 after facing three straight 1st year coaches.
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I don't know if anyone else heard Jamie Pollard's pre-game interview on the radio, but he was pretty confident about the game. He even was predicting a great chance for the team to be 5-3 after facing three straight 1st year coaches.
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I didn't hear JP. But I did hear Ben take plenty of shots at the Baylor stadium and lackluster attendance.
Funny. A little bit poorly placed in retrospect, now that we got our butts handed to us. But still funny.
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That's all well and good, but they were absolutely horrible last year so Minneapolis didn't seem to play any role there. What about Northwestern's resurgence? Ever been to an NU game? It's not exactly a big time atmosphere by any stretch. How about Vandy? Boise State has built a strong program that beats top ranked teams. Why are UCLA and Washington terrible right now? Those are both great locations.
You're argument is pretty weak. Location isn't the primary reason recruits choose a school. If it was, all teams in cold weather states would suck, and we know that is not the case.
That's all well and good, but they were absolutely horrible last year so Minneapolis didn't seem to play any role there. What about Northwestern's resurgence? Ever been to an NU game? It's not exactly a big time atmosphere by any stretch. How about Vandy? Boise State has built a strong program that beats top ranked teams. Why are UCLA and Washington terrible right now? Those are both great locations.
You're argument is pretty weak. Location isn't the primary reason recruits choose a school. If it was, all teams in cold weather states would suck, and we know that is not the case.
Sir, I think that you should probably stop posting. You are making too much sense. It doesn't fit in with the people feeling sorry for themselves, and looking for people to blame for it.
This really isn't that complicated, and we will see this again this Winter when the basketball team is getting drilled (although because of the schedule, they should beat a bunch of the bad teams that we are playing). I don't know if there is a fanbase in the nation that overvalues/rates its talent like this one.
But, the thing is that Gene is upgrading the talent level on the team (I didn't say performance). You can see that we have more good players now than we did last year. And he is building with high school players, not a juco quick fix, so it is going to take longer.
They had a bad night last night, and the mistakes that the staff made needs to be corrected. We will see if they can learn from it, and not do the same thing over and over (remember the previous coach never did).
And whoever said you have to hit bottom before you can bounce back was right. Last year it was the Texas game, and then we came back and played well after that. Hopefully, this was bottom.
I will say this, I hope that the "fans" on here who want to boo next week just stay home, or tailgate, but don't go in. This team needs people to support them.
He is? We do? Based on what? Certainly not based on the product on the field. We have finished at the bottom (along with Baylor) in the conference according to recruiting rankings the last twoi years. That doesn't seem to bother Briles.
You need to quit denying reality: that this is the worst-coached team on fundamentals since the Walden days. As another poster mentioned, I almost expected to see 'ol Jim himself on our sidelines last night.
The thing that has disappointed me most about this coaching staff is this:
The team made these mistakes in game 1:
Unnecessary & stupid personal fouls.
Arm tackles, not getting in front of ball carriers, missed tackles.
False starts.
Screwball play calling system and delay of game penalties. You can add to that no sense of urgency or awareness of the clock, even when we were behind in the second half the offense never appeared to be in any sort of hurry-up mode.
And the team is still making these mistakes in game 6! Most if not all of these are unforced errors that have nothing to do with the opponent. What do they work on in practice?
I mean Pollard watched that cluster **** from the sidelines, and while he may have never played some football he is Chizik's boss, and would probally like an accounting for what went wrong and what he's going to do from here.
But I could be wrong
I understand now - I'm sure you're right. Jamie has asked for a lot of buy-in from fans for this coaching staff.
We've got a young team and they're going to make mistakes....fans can understand and accept that, for awhile.
What we forget is that we also have a young coaching staff including a head coach who has never been a head coach before on any level. He is going to make mistakes too, and it may take time for him to grow into the job. Fans may not understand that -- paying someone $1.1 million is a lot of money for on-the-job training -- but that ship has sailed. Hopefully at some point, maybe in the off-season, Gene can spend time asking for and receiving advice from some of his mentors like Mack Brown. Let's not forget that he's all alone at ISU -- there was no continuity from the old staff, Pollard doesn't know football, and it's not like the first year coaches at Nebraska & Wisconsin who have Tom Osborne and Barry Alvarez around for advice when needed.
Look, I get it, you were a BIG fan of the previous coach. The problem is that if you think that any of the last 6-7 Mac teams were more fundementally sound than this one, then we need not argue anymore. Because, you are wrong, and if unwilling to admit that, then it is pointless.
If you can't see that there is more speed, and more Big 12 level players, physically, on this team than the last McCarney team, then it is pointless for me to argue with you.
If you can't see that Mac left a bare cupboard for the new coach, after 12 years, and it will take time to rebuild, then it is pointless arguing with you.
So, why don't you, and Curt, and Monty, and all of the rest, just admit to the people on here that you want Gene to fail. It is very obvious that you do, and it may make some of us have more respect for you. :no:
I don't think that anyone wants Chizik to fail. Next week I will be there waiting for the "good" Cyclone team to show up. If we would have lost to Texas 38-10 I would be unhappy because I thought that we were better than that this year. Looks like I'm wrong. I really thought that we would be "in" every game. I think that things can turn around for us this season. However, there is no way to sugarcoat that loss!
Please go tell Kurtis Taylor, RJ Sumrall, Austen Arnaud, etc. that they are part of a "bare cupboard." Those are our team leaders!
You also seem to miss my repeated posts where I say that Mac needed to go - the last two years were awful. But did we hire someone better?
I'm starting to wonder if you work for the ISU sports information department...
If Mac left the cupboard bare, why were 17 out of 22 starters in the Baylor game Mac recruits?
And if we lost because the players Mac left are so bad, where do you see this so-called more speed and more Big 12 players? Tell us where they are...are they sitting on the bench? Because they sure don't show up on the field.
The last McCarney team went 4-8. The first Chizik team went 3-9. The second Chizik team is headed to an identical or worse record against an easier schedule.
You make no sense.
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The sad part is that I loved Mac. I appreciated all of his efforts, and wish that coaching wasn't part of his job, because he did struggle at that. I had a great time at bowl games, and will always appreciate that Mac was able to get us to that point.
The thing is, and my friends laugh at me now, I was a huge defender of him, and was mad when he was forced out. I have all the faith in the world in Gene Chizik. I also understand that a coach doesn't go 4-8, which could have been 0-12 if the program was in good shape. Now, because of people with agendas, I am having to use facts, like records, performance, and aftermath, of his time here, and Mac doesn't look good from a historical perspective.
It makes me sad
Regardless of how long we've been fans of Iowa State we all know how painful it is. We've seen the blowouts (ala Nebraska and Iowa) we've been witness to blowing leads against ranked teams (ala KState, Oklahoma, Kansas) we've suffered devastating losses from teams we should have beaten (ala losing to UNI for the first time in just under a century, this weeks loss to Baylor). but when I see a cyclone fan, I KNOW they are a cyclone fan. No one likes the cyclones because it's the "in" thing to do. We are great fans, the best fans I've ever been around (no bias here) besides maybe Cubs fans. I graduated from ISU, I have a great sense of pride in my alma mater. And all I know is that no matter how many times I step foot into Jack Trice stadium I still get goosebumps. To see all the clone diehards gather together week after week to cheer on our cyclones is an amazing thing, something that other programs with as much success as us (or lack thereof) don't have. So let's suck it up, admit that deep down inside we love the cyclones unconditionally and take comfort in the fact that we are a rare and special breed of fans, something you can't buy or recruit. Go State!
Nobody, especially me, is trying to sugar coat the loss last night. I wasted 6 hours of my day, and $250.00 to go watch a ridiculous performance. It was bad, it was Nebraska in 1995 (77-14) bad, except it was against a very average team.
But if you can't have perspective that it is a process, and that this program had to be rebuilt from the groud up, and that the only way to do that is through recruiting, then you aren't being realistic.
