ISU's Issues
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Yeah, our program is a helluva lot better now. If you can't see that, that's your problem. Did you happen to notice how much better Baylor and OSU are now? How about Missouri, aTm and guess what, KState found their program again.
Rosenfels was the only QB in there you mentioned that really developed well for us. Wallace was a Juco transfer and wasn't developed, he just happened. All we need for the Mac success to come back is get the benefit of playing the ****** teams he got to play against. And still find ways to lose to them when he shouldn't. Just go look at Mac's record against ranked opponenents. And then also look at how many of those ranked at the time we beat them eneded up in the top 25 at the end of the year.
I hate to constantly Bash Mac, he was a great guy and did a lot for this program, but holy crap, so many of you put the guy up on this pedestal of being the greatest coach of all time. When in reality, his teams constantly underperformed. Even the 2000 team, arguably the best he had, lost to aTm when they shouldn't have. That team should have been 10-2, not 9-3. It wasn't as much great teams Mac put together as much as bad competition and favorable North schedule in the Big XII.
There is no doubt in my mind, that if CPR had Mac's schedules, we'd be rolling our way to a good bowl this year. Sucks, but it's the truth.
If he had a Mac schedule with the aTm, OkSt and Baylor rotation, we might lose 2 conference games.
And so it has come to this. In your (and others') desperate attempt to minimize and criticize any accomplishments of the Mac era, you rip on Seneca Wallace. Priceless.
Of course, this comes from the "expert" who thought Harbaugh's base offense at Stanford was the spread...
Nothing like a little exaggeration is there. I didn't rip on Seneca. I told the truth. If you want to talk about development, well, Arnaud was a more accurate passer by the numbers. If Seneca would have won the Heisman I would have said the same thing. He wasn't developed. He was what he was when he got here. It's also not a very desperate attempt. Look at the competition he faced. It was awful relative to what we are up against today and he didn't do anything with it. I don't consider his accomplishments awe-inspiring, I'm sorry. When you have teams that, talent wise, should have won 2 North titles pretty easily, that is a disappointment. Did Mac do some good things with basically nothing when he started? Sure he did. No one is denying that but to think he was this tremendous coach who had us in a better place as far as our program independently is incorrect. Lesser competition does not make your team better. It just means everyone else is worse.
Do you wan to go back to the Stanford argument? Let's do it. You said something like "Harbaugh uses no spread principles." I then posted a video of Andrew Luck running a read option. You then said something about selectively finding evidence to support my argument which was sort of funny because that's kind of what you do when trying to prove a point. I never said his base offense was a spread.
I thought the receivers looked rather lazy Saturday. A lot of sloppy routes, half-assed routes, quitting early...I was pretty disappointed about that. I thought JB played great and looked ready to go right away. A welcomed spark to the offense.
In year-one, Rhoads played a McCarney-esque schedule and made it to a bowl and won it with virtually no depth. I loved what Mac did at ISU, but Rhoads is a FAR better coach. Our team just needs more development to be able to compete with the schedule and a little bit of luck (Hoping some other Big 12 programs tank).
Right...even though CPR's best year was his first, with a squad populated mainly with Mac's talent. With Mac's players gone, look where we are...
Right...even though CPR's best year was his first, with a squad populated mainly with Mac's talent. With Mac's players gone, look where we are...
You just don't understand strength of schedule do you?
Right...even though CPR's best year was his first, with a squad populated mainly with Mac's talent. With Mac's players gone, look where we are...
And Mac's competition. Why do you continue to ignore that point?
Mac, is that you?
This is not the same Big XII that McCarney had his success in. No where near it. 2004 and 2005 there was not a team in the North we should have lost to. Nor should we have lost to Baylor, but Mac found a way to do it. Kansas is literally the only game you can point to now and say we should win. And it's not for lack of our talent as much as the other teams are just better now than they probably ever were.
Whoa, hold on there. For most of Mac's career , he had to play a K-State team that was a national power. Not counting this year (as we haven't played them yet), we have lost to Wildcat teams that have had conference records of 4-4 and 3-5 the last two years...
To be honest, I think the Big12 is at its strongest in its brief history. I've never seen so many teams from the conference in the top 25. It's sad and ironic that we'll be losing two more teams after this year (I'm assuming Mizzou is going with TX A&M to the SEC). Of course, having TCU next year is not much of a downgrade from the Aggies in terms of athletics, but Louisville (they are the #1 choice to replace MU aren't they?) is not in Mizzou's league right now which is good for the Cyclones (another winnable game). Right now, the Big 12 is the #1 college FB conference in America, but OU losing to TTU may change that perception. ISU has the (mis)fortune in playing in the best FB conference. It's will take more time than expected to get the Cyclone FB program to a level where they are able to win more than one, two, or three conference games a season. ISU is sort of like Kentucky in the SEC in this regard. Look how long it took McCarney to get ISU to be a regular bowl participant with arguably weaker opponents; it may take CPR just as long.
They were pretty good for a lot of his career, but far from National Power contention for at least the latter half of his career. Even so, from 2002 on, they were not an unbeatable team, especially with all the talent you say Danny Mac put on the field. And you are talking about 1 team in the North. So that makes our weak south schedule just one game harder. It doesn't change the fact that in 2004 and 2005 we had a chance to win the North in a game against a team that wasn't KState and still failed to do it.
DL play has improved, but nowhere near where it needs to be.
Ruemp usually flashes early, then fades. Think his knee cannot hold up for a whole game & he is gutting it out best he can (?). McDonough has been playing well & receives a lot of double teams. He gets the most consistent penetration. Still, others on the DL cannot get off blocks & make big plays. Main job is to occupy blockers so LBs can tackle, but our LBs are overpursuing too many times (i.e., trying to do too much). An occasional big play (TFL) by a DL would help immensely. Happened 1st half vs A&M, then our front 7 couldn't get off blocks in the 2nd half. Need more big plays out of front 4, don't have depth yet to do so.
Bend-don't break okay, but occasionally need to take a chance. Reeves undercutting & out with safety help over the top would have been nice once in a while. Seems to be he could make that play once in a while.
OL play is lacking. We are struggling with the new starters & dinged veterans. KO has been fighting injuries all season & is gutting it out, too. WRs & TEs BLOCKING has not been good. Bubble screens are worthless unless effort & execution of blockers picks up. We don't use TEs as FB/HB & wham-blocks like last 2 years. Must not be capable of this? Also, TEs not enough of a weapon pass-catching. Dropsies started showing up across the board.
To all of you chicken-littles, know that more is going on behind the scenes than you could possibly know. The journey of a football team over the course of the season has all kinds of ups & downs for every player in addition to the ups & downs of the Wins & Losses incurred by the team as a whole. The mantra "All In" is easy when you are winning, the key is whether you are when the times are toughest. Players & coaches not 'All In' will be weeded out - natural selection. Right now, though, is time to keep grinding it out, work your tail off, & remain committed to those beside you.
Ruemp usually flashes early, then fades. Think his knee cannot hold up for a whole game & he is gutting it out best he can (?). McDonough has been playing well & receives a lot of double teams. He gets the most consistent penetration. Still, others on the DL cannot get off blocks & make big plays. Main job is to occupy blockers so LBs can tackle, but our LBs are overpursuing too many times (i.e., trying to do too much). An occasional big play (TFL) by a DL would help immensely. Happened 1st half vs A&M, then our front 7 couldn't get off blocks in the 2nd half. Need more big plays out of front 4, don't have depth yet to do so.
Bend-don't break okay, but occasionally need to take a chance. Reeves undercutting & out with safety help over the top would have been nice once in a while. Seems to be he could make that play once in a while.
OL play is lacking. We are struggling with the new starters & dinged veterans. KO has been fighting injuries all season & is gutting it out, too. WRs & TEs BLOCKING has not been good. Bubble screens are worthless unless effort & execution of blockers picks up. We don't use TEs as FB/HB & wham-blocks like last 2 years. Must not be capable of this? Also, TEs not enough of a weapon pass-catching. Dropsies started showing up across the board.
To all of you chicken-littles, know that more is going on behind the scenes than you could possibly know. The journey of a football team over the course of the season has all kinds of ups & downs for every player in addition to the ups & downs of the Wins & Losses incurred by the team as a whole. The mantra "All In" is easy when you are winning, the key is whether you are when the times are toughest. Players & coaches not 'All In' will be weeded out - natural selection. Right now, though, is time to keep grinding it out, work your tail off, & remain committed to those beside you.
Right...even though CPR's best year was his first, with a squad populated mainly with Mac's talent. With Mac's players gone, look where we are...
You just don't get it do you. What you just said there (which is incorrect but I'll go with it because you make my point anyway) is that CPR took essentially the same team with the same competition and did more than Mac could do with it.
Because the conference is tougher. What part of this is so hard?
OSU-Way better
Baylor-Way better
aTm-Way better
KSU-Even, we'll say but it's irrelevant because Mac couldn't beat them when it mattered either
Mizzou-Better
OU-Better
KU-Same
Tech-Even over the last two years but better today
Texas-Weaker
That's not even to mention a horrible Nebraska team during that time and a poor Colorado program. We replace them with teams that are better now than they were then and it's not even close.
Right...even though CPR's best year was his first, with a squad populated mainly with Mac's talent. With Mac's players gone, look where we are...
Also, once again, just because your opposition is worse, that doesn't mean you are better.
Why do you insist on making **** up? You are sad. It has to be hard to live your life to defend something that is indefensable.
This post is full of outright lies. Bandhauer was an ok QB, and could have been better. The problem was your hero wasted his redshirt year to throw a bomb at the end of a half against OU.
He did everything in his power to not play Rosenfels his junior year.
Seneca was the same QB he was in Boise as he was the day he stepped on campus. He was a great talent, and and athlete, but there was no way that his QB skills were developed. We would not have been bowl eligible (oooohhhh Boise), had he not put us on his back twice to win games. The iowa game, that everyone remembers, but also the mizzu game.
As far as Meyer goes, I remember a quote from Blythe admitting that they cut the field in half in the offense he ran for three years. How is that developing a QB?
And he coached Arnaud for a redshirt year.
My God, I am not even that old, and I remember this stuff. Why do you insist on making **** up all the time?
I get it, you have hung around, not posting when we were winning. But, start losing, and all of the mac the mediocre people come running out in force. Of course that completely fabricate all the details with half truths and outright lies. But they have made it their pathetic life's mission to try to make dan the mediocre mccarney into Bear Bryant, Knute Rockne, and Vince Lombardi all rolled into one.
The problem is that there are still people that remember how bad he was. And 56-85 never lies.
