Jacob Park

[Clonefan32]

The fact that the vast majority of the passing highlights in camp were from Park, and the fact that the ******* coaching staff said themselves they want to get him on the field has nothing to do with his rivals rating. You're right, he hasn't played in a few years, that's why they are getting him ready first. Do all Lanning homers lack common sense?

Your direct quote was "Joel Lanning doesn't have the talent to start at any other Big 12 School and Jacob Park does." What in the world could lead you to that determination? A few spliced highlights from camp? The fact that the staff said "they'd like to get him in the game"? The fact we've gone from a few minutes of highlight film to the guy having the talent to play in the Big 12 is comedic.

I have no idea of Lanning is our best bet. No clue. But to suggest that one is a Big 12 talent and one isn't when one hasn't played a down of competitive football in 2 years is astounding. Let's be honest, if our rivals out East had this same situation, we'd be rolling on the floor laughing.

 

[RustShack]

You have to have talent to be a 4 or 5 star player. You can be talented and not good at football. 1st round picks in the NFL are talented, that doesn't make them successful.

Why do people struggle so much with knowing what talent is?

 

[RustShack]

You were probably the same dude arguing with me last year too when I said Warren was our most talented RB. "Then why isn't he starting?" Lolol

 

[MeowingCows]

You have to have talent to be a 4 or 5 star player. You can be talented and not good at football. 1st round picks in the NFL are talented, that doesn't make them successful.

Why do people struggle so much with knowing what talent is?

Take a step back, there, Chief. Knowing what talent is, and knowing how to grade and allocate it are two entirely different things.

Which category does your expertise fall into?

 

[RustShack]

I got it a lot worse when I said Irving was talented enough to be in the NFL. Now he's a Cowboy.

 

[TuckerBlayze]

If you have any questions about their differences...just go into the stadium early, sit down in the first row, and watch them warm up.
I want everyone to know that I like Lanning but he is a runner. If he isn't going to run people over and be that tough yardage back it diminishes his game.
Park is a thrower plain and simple. He is taller, his arm is just as strong if not stronger and he has better touch. He simply looks the part.
Park wasn't brought in to sit and I truly believe if he could have been here for spring practice we might have a different starter at the moment.

 

[RustShack]

If you have any questions about their differences...just go into the stadium early, sit down in the first row, and watch them warm up.
I want everyone to know that I like Lanning but he is a runner. If he isn't going to run people over and be that tough yardage back it diminishes his game.
Park is a thrower plain and simple. He is taller, his arm is just as strong if not stronger and he has better touch. He simply looks the part.
Park wasn't brought in to sit and I truly believe if he could have been here for spring practice we might have a different starter at the moment.

This. I like Lanning, as a runner. Not as a starter. He needs a package where he runs hard, and occasionally bombs one deep. He's not fast or elusive enough to do the run and slide that he's doing now that he's the starter. And he isn't accurate enough to keep airing it out like he was against UNI.

 

[ExCyment]

Forget the quarterback play.
When you have a returning Freshman All American RB, you give him the ball on the first drive. You give him more than 5 carries in the first half. You give him more than 12 carries in the game.

There is no reason Warren shouldn't have 10-15 carries in the first half of a game, even if they only go for 10-15 yards. He's eventually going to find a hole and get going.

He had about 5 more in the first half for 50 yards, all called back on penalties.

 

[Gunnerclone]

If you have any questions about their differences...just go into the stadium early, sit down in the first row, and watch them warm up.
I want everyone to know that I like Lanning but he is a runner. If he isn't going to run people over and be that tough yardage back it diminishes his game.
Park is a thrower plain and simple. He is taller, his arm is just as strong if not stronger and he has better touch. He simply looks the part.
Park wasn't brought in to sit and I truly believe if he could have been here for spring practice we might have a different starter at the moment.

I completely agree with this. If you aren't going to let Lanning Lanning then there's no point in playing him. This means lots of quick snap draws, read/option, and straight option looks. If I were he coach I'd come out running him right away...if the line can't handle it then let's see what Park can do for a couple of series.

 

[demoncore1031]

If we're going to talk about Jacob Park can we take a minute and discuss what the **** is going on with this haircut? It looks like a guy with curly hair is standing directly behind him.
Worst mullet of all time.

And it doesn't matter who is at QB if the o-line is complete crap.

 

[ExCyment]

Although Parks may not be any better at decision making, we'll never know if he sits on the bench. Sometimes the best guy is on the bench, especially early when there is an incumbent. Warren was that guy last year, so was Troy Davis years ago. I'm not calling for Lanning to be benched quite yet, but I want to see Parks get a chance. You can't teach talent, and his high school ranking and offers say he probably has more than any quarterback we have. Not a guarantee of success, but definitely an indicator of potential.

 

[CYEATHAWK]

As of right now, the line looks better at pass blocking than run blocking. And the line is the weak point of the offense. So it would make sense to put in the individual who would best play to their strengths. Who that is I don't know, haven't seen Park. But as good as UNI is.....things are going to get a whole lot tougher. And the line is going to need all the help they can get. If Park is more of a pure passer......well. Just my HO.

 

[mvoss16]

I think Park will see game time the same way Lanning did last year, which is after a game has gotten out of hand and the starting QB has thrown >3 interceptions. The question is, what's the first game where that will happen? My guess is Lanning will sputter until the Texas game where it becomes clear Park needs reps in order to save the current season or get primed for 2017.

 

[RustShack]

I think Park will see game time the same way Lanning did last year, which is after a game has gotten out of hand and the starting QB has thrown >3 interceptions. The question is, what's the first game where that will happen? My guess is Lanning will sputter until the Texas game where it becomes clear Park needs reps in order to save the current season or get primed for 2017.

Lanning had some plays here and there before the game out out of hand...

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

I'm not one to bench Lanning at all..at least not now..but that lose is a lot on Lanning not all but a lot I'm sorry to say..Sure Oline penalties didn't help but as a key player you can't have 4 turnovers you just can't. If a starting RB had 4 fumbles lost do you think they would still be playing?

Running back doesn't touch the ball every play. He also doesn't get relied upon when the online puts them in a hole 1st and 20, 2nd and 15 etc. I agree 4 turnovers is bad, but Joel is only guilty of choking at a key point in the game because we had no chance to make plays due to poor penalties. Every qb in history has been guilty of pressng in a difficult game and committing errors.

 

[CyValley]

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The two together are create an outstandingly powerful, detailed breakdown of the game and the Cyclone players. You can't help but learn a lot (at least I did).

 

[Cychl82]

If we had even a little bit of a running game we would have won, you cant bench Lanning and put this one on his shoulders. Did he make a few bad plays in crucial moments....yup, but we have to look at the bigger picture.

 

[clone52]

He had about 5 more in the first half for 50 yards, all called back on penalties.

I know, so why give up on him.

We ran 5 plays on the opening drive. None of them were given to Mike Warren. No plays were called back, the ball was not given to Warren at all. Inexcusable.

I guess there was 1 drive in the first half where they gave Warren 2 carries and he didnt' do much. I don't think there was another drive in the entire game where he got more than 1 carry. I know the penalties put us behind the 8 ball, but it just seems like they should done more to try and get him involved.

 

[ruxCYtable]

Well if that's the case we should probably start him

Yes. I do not think a backup QB has ever uttered such words.

 

[clones26]

You were probably the same dude arguing with me last year too when I said Warren was our most talented RB. "Then why isn't he starting?" Lolol

I got it a lot worse when I said Irving was talented enough to be in the NFL. Now he's a Cowboy.

Is your arm ok or did you break it patting yourself on the back? In all seriousness though Park could be great or could be Lanning. I think right now Lanning isn't THE problem, just part of it and we can all agree that even Park would've struggled Saturday