Just what is our program becoming known for?

jsb

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They actually put you in an orange jumpsuit for a public intox, in which you were probably in the cell for a few hours?!
Seems odd. I always just thought if you got a public intox they just tossed you inside the drunk tank until you were sober enough to go home. (wearing the same clothes you had on when you got there)

I think we know what the Ames police do. Remember the BDJ arrest with the stupid cuffs? He wasn't in a red jumpsuit and his charges (as filed) were much more serious than a stupid public intox.
 

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Just finished the paper. Was SHOCKED, shocked I tell you, to go through the 14 page sports section in the Star Tribune and not find this as a featured exposé. Not mentioned on Sports Center last night either. Not even the NY tabloids have picked up on it.

Only coverage for this obscure article is this thread and I imagine a few breathlessly indignant threads on Hawk Nation or Rivals or wherever the other Hawk fans hang out to post. I can assume one of the Hawkeye dens is where our apprentice troll picked up on this?


 

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This is moranic. Not having enough evidence to prosecute doesn't mean the charges were trumped up. At the very least he's guilty of being an enormous *******.

Correct, but it also doesn't (and definitely shouldn't) mean that anyone charged is automatically guilty. Just telling everyone how the criminal justice system works in this country. And, my opinion is based on working as a prosecutor as well as criminal defense attorney for over two decades. Also, just because a person pleads guilty doesn't mean they committed a crime. On reason people plead guilty is because prosecutors trump up charges so the potential consequences of going to trial are much more adverse than pleading guilty to a lesser charge. A large majority of the people on death row who have been exonerated were sentenced because they pled guilty under duress and coercion from the police. There is a reason the police unions oppose recording of "confessions" as well as body cameras.
 

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Yes, definitely bad press for ISU, but there's not really even a story here. Why should the actions of former players have anything to do with the current program? Hogue and Jackson never got in any trouble when they were actually on the team. Who cares what they do after they're gone? It has no bearing on the current roster. And as everyone knows, BDJ's charges were dropped almost immediately. So that leaves you with two guys currently on the roster who got in trouble last off-season. There is no story here!

These aren't former Cyclones. They are on campus and enrolled in classes. The incidents happened in the same semester as their sport was played. Let's stop pretending that the second the final buzzer sounds they stop representing the University and that their actions stop reflecting on the school.
 

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These aren't former Cyclones. They are on campus and enrolled in classes. The incidents happened in the same semester as their sport was played. Let's stop pretending that the second the final buzzer sounds they stop representing the University and that their actions stop reflecting on the school.

Lets stop pretending like these incidents are program changing or ruin the reputation of Hoiberg and his team.
 

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Lol don't you mean former players. Lol. My goodness hawk fan... go tell me what really happened with rhabdo.

too funny u little hawk fans.

I guess you are having trouble being little brother now.


I guess someone didn't like the previous title? As I said I am certainly happy with what we have accomplished on court the last few years but at what point does the off court stuff overshadow that? Frankly I find it embarrassing one third of our team has worn an orange jumpsuit the last year.

Orange is the new cardinal?

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspo...arrests-this-week/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
 

D UP Clones

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Wait I know what the hawk program is known for..... no ethics... a raging lunatic for a coach.... and oh yeah...losing.

too funny... keep them coming hawks. I mean little brother.


I guess someone didn't like the previous title? As I said I am certainly happy with what we have accomplished on court the last few years but at what point does the off court stuff overshadow that? Frankly I find it embarrassing one third of our team has worn an orange jumpsuit the last year.

Orange is the new cardinal?

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspo...arrests-this-week/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
 

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This is moranic. Not having enough evidence to prosecute doesn't mean the charges were trumped up. At the very least he's guilty of being an enormous *******.
Do you mean, Moranis? Rick Moranis?
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These aren't former Cyclones. They are on campus and enrolled in classes. The incidents happened in the same semester as their sport was played. Let's stop pretending that the second the final buzzer sounds they stop representing the University and that their actions stop reflecting on the school.

Present a solution or shut up.
 

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Our program is known as one with a classy coach who gives some kids a 2nd chance to turn their lives around. It is known as a program with quality kids who play their heart out. Just to answer your question.

The kinds of relatively minor legal issues that have cropped up under FH's tenure have been handled very appropriately, and ISU has a reputation as a solid and clean program. Anything else you'd like to know, Hawkeye?

Very well said. Not saying I approve of some players' decisions on occasion, but our coach has handled it and held them accountable. Probably more than most. After reading the article, it sure seems like the writer went out of his way to combine incidents to deface the program, especially the part where he insinuates our staff apparently isn't putting enough emphasis on these issues. Thought that was kind of a bold accusation by an outsider.
 

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Our program, and quite a few others out there as well, seem to be overflowing with a rampant scourge of uncharacteristic juvenile behavior *sarcasm*: http://arrestnation.com/2015-stats/ I find it quite odd that this journalist would strike out at ISU. The numbers on arrestnation aren't completely current, but even if the top 3 haven't had another arrest we would be tied for 1st on the list, not leading it.

Even with a small uptick in citations this last year that seems to be focused more heavily than normal around the bball team, the total number of charges seems rather insignificant to me. Sure the coaching staff needs to constantly focus on educating and monitoring the student athletes, but these are young college kids attending a University that, for better or worse, has a strong drinking culture. If you are worried about some sort of party-crazed atmosphere turning prospect's parents off of the University the biggest black eye to the school image due to rowdy drinking, VEISHEA, isn't even in the equation anymore.

Such a pointless and misconstrued article. I wonder what agenda the author really has in bringing it forward in this context? Are we recruiting against one of his Illinois schools for a prospect or something?
 

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We're becoming known for being imperfect human beings who **** up every now and then. Why do so many people hold college athletes or anybody in the public eye for that matter to such a high standard? If you're a model citizen who says your prayers, takes your vitamins, and goes to bed at 9, good for you but not everybody lives their life like that. Different folks different strokes or something like that.