Kansas up 1 at haltime at Texas Tech

[Yellow Snow]

HFCS... twocoach is not a troll. He is a fan of a different team, with different opinions. He's not calling anybody names, he's not inflammatory (maybe comes across as arrogant at times though), he's not bashing ISU... etc. He's a fan of a different team and has a different view on things than you and I do. Fair enough?

Good lord... this board is funny sometimes...

Regarding the dead ball three you keep bringing up relentlessly... by RULE they had to count it. It wasn't the refs who CHOSE to count it.

The ref who called the KU foul indicated two shots to the scorers table... the (different) ref who actually threw the ball to Homan prior to the free throw signaled a 1 and 1 to the players along the lane. At this point, somebody should have noticed... the ref who called the foul, Homan, our coaches... somebody. Nobody did. He misses the shot and KU rebounds and hits a three and our bench went ballistic. Play is stopped.

By rule the three had to count. I'll put it this way. Had they missed the three and we rebounded the miss, hit our own three before somebody noticed the error our three would have counted as well. You can't wipe that out after the fact.

It would be no different than a scorer not starting the game clock after a dead ball. Pretend nobody notices and the teams play for 5 minutes before somebody says "wait a minute"? You can't just wipe out what happened during that time. Once the error is noticed, play is reset to where it was prior to the error. All action during that time is still valid.

The refs had no choice but to count the three. It wasn't their decision to make. The real problem on the dead ball three was the lack of communication between the two refs (the one who called the foul and the one on the baseline throwing the ball to Homan).

It's not a freaking conspiracy.

 

[twocoach]

You're a troll because you don't think KU has ever won a game by benefitting from bogus calls. It doesn't always even out, that's idiotic.

I don't think ANY TEAM has ever won a game SOLELY by benefitting from bogus calls but every team benefits from bad calls against their opponent in every game somewhat, including ISU. There are bad calls against both teams in every game, any one of which would have changed what happened if they were made differently. That's all.

 

[HFCS]

HFCS... twocoach is not a troll. He is a fan of a different team, with different opinions. He's not calling anybody names, he's not inflammatory (maybe comes across as arrogant at times though), he's not bashing ISU... etc. He's a fan of a different team and has a different view on things than you and I do. Fair enough?

Good lord... this board is funny sometimes...

Regarding the dead ball three you keep bringing up relentlessly... by RULE they had to count it. It wasn't the refs who CHOSE to count it.

The ref who called the KU foul indicated two shots to the scorers table... the (different) ref who actually threw the ball to Homan prior to the free throw signaled a 1 and 1 to the players along the lane. At this point, somebody should have noticed... the ref who called the foul, Homan, our coaches... somebody. Nobody did. He misses the shot and KU rebounds and hits a three and our bench went ballistic. Play is stopped.

By rule the three had to count. I'll put it this way. Had they missed the three and we rebounded the miss, hit our own three before somebody noticed the error our three would have counted as well. You can't wipe that out after the fact.

It would be no different than a scorer not starting the game clock after a dead ball. Pretend nobody notices and the teams play for 5 minutes before somebody says "wait a minute"? You can't just wipe out what happened during that time. Once the error is noticed, play is reset to where it was prior to the error. All action during that time is still valid.

The refs had no choice but to count the three. It wasn't their decision to make. The real problem on the dead ball three was the lack of communication between the two refs (the one who called the foul and the one on the baseline throwing the ball to Homan).

It's not a freaking conspiracy.

1. Who says it has to be some detailed conspiracy? If you don't think KU gets preferable calls in Big 12 play (who knows how or why but they do) it's you who are deluding yourself. It's plain as day. If last year's game in Ames was officiated competently ISU wins the game, they choked on what would have been a game tying shot and were then bailed out by an irrational foul after they lost the game. It's not every day a blown game is still a top story on sportscenter and PTI four days after the game was played.

2. Who cares what the rule book says about the 3, everyone knows that it was probably one of the most massive errors you'll ever see. How often do you see that? I'll take note when something that outrageous happens against KU but it never will in Big 12 play, they'd have blown the play dead the minute a KU player raised his hands up in confusion like Homan did.

twocoach isn't always trolling, but he does make some troll posts just like the majority of ISU fans on KU and Iowa message boards will.

Some ISU, KSU and other Big 12 fans make themselves feel better about it by living in denial that KU gets no benefit from officials. Others feel better about it by venting on the realities. To each his own.

 

[CoKane]

B) depressing as in non stop attempts to predict their own demise. Every conversation spiraled downward into this ugly pile of frustration. They have had a lot of excellent coaches come and go from their program and seem frustrated that they can't break through to the next level of consistent results.

Nebraska/Creighton fans are funny. I think that most of the Creighton fans that attend games aren't really basketball fans; they just like to attend the games and make a fun night out of going out to dinner, socializing at the games and hitting the bars afterwards. It's an event; not a religion. The games I have attended have been bizarre, seeing huge numbers of people gathered in the concourses, drinking and socializing. The crowds during the game can best be described as quiet. The sheer number of them (18,000+) creates noise when something happens but the crowd as a whole isn't much of a force.

Most of the true basketball fans in Nebraska seem to be hoping and praying that Nebraska will field a good team. The new arena has been filled well and the support is swelling. Bottom line, this is a Husker town. It will interesting to see what Omaha looks like from a basketball fan perspective once McDermott graduates and the Creighton waves lulls.

Lol. That Creighton thing is pretty funny. They'll probably just do the same thing as before just with less people.

 

[twocoach]

1. Who says it has to be some detailed conspiracy? If you don't think KU gets preferable calls in Big 12 play (who knows how or why but they do) it's you who are deluding yourself. It's plain as day. If last year's game in Ames was officiated competently ISU wins the game, they choked on what would have been a game tying shot and were then bailed out by an irrational foul after they lost the game. It's not every day a blown game is still a top story on sportscenter and PTI four days after the game was played.

2. Who cares what the rule book says about the 3, everyone knows that it was probably one of the most massive errors you'll ever see. How often do you see that? I'll take note when something that outrageous happens against KU but it never will in Big 12 play, they'd have blown the play dead the minute a KU player raised his hands up in confusion like Homan did.

twocoach isn't always trolling, but he does make some troll posts just like the majority of ISU fans on KU and Iowa message boards will.

Some ISU, KSU and other Big 12 fans make themselves feel better about it by living in denial that KU gets no benefit from officials. Others feel better about it by venting on the realities. To each his own.

The more aggressive team tends to get more calls and Kansas has almost always been the more aggressive team. Now that Iowa State has the coaching and players that will allow them to be the more aggressive team in most games they play, they will start to be the team that seems to get "ll the calls" or at least it will appear so to the teams that ISU is playing. You'll see. Two years from now you'll be saying "it's about time."

 

[twocoach]

Lol. That Creighton thing is pretty funny. They'll probably just do the same thing as before just with less people.

So long as they keep serving alcohol at Creighton games they will always have a decent sized crowd...

 

[mikeiastat]

Any team that gets seeded #1 a lot is going to under-perform a lot more in the tournament than they over-perform. Historically, #1 seeds make it to the Final Four about 45% of the time.

In Bill Self's 10 years at KU, we have been a #1 seed 5 times, and won a total of 15 tournament games as a #1 seed. So on average, when KU is a #1 seed they make it to the Elite 8. Self has also taken KU all the way to the finals as a #2 seed in 2012, and to the Elite 8 as a #4 seed in 2004.

You weren't a #1 seed this year, HMMMM yet another early exit. What was it this time? 2 rounds early? Nice work.

While once again, ISU played to seed despite losing their most efficient scorer.