Kempt sixth-year ... any day now

[Bigman38]

Leave to ISU fans to dump on the only good QB we've had in almost a decade.

Off the top of my head Kempt is likely the second best returning QB in the Big 12. Would be a huge addition to next season.

 

[Sigmapolis]

The staff wants Kempt back relative to their other options.

That is all I need to know.

Yes, his arm strength is suspect, but the results speak for themselves.

Tom Brady is not slinging 98 MPH fastballs anymore (if he ever was) -- it matters not.

Even if Zeb takes over, having depth and experience is absolutely critical.

 

[2forISU]

All he did is get us wins over OU, TCU, and even a bowl game...but we don't want him.

 

[Playboi Carti]

All he did is get us wins over OU, TCU, and even a bowl game...but we don't want him.

It's because he's "not flashy" or he "doesn't have a big arm"

 

[IlliniCy]

It's because he's "not flashy" or he "doesn't have a big arm"

Neither was or did Peyton Manning.
(And no, I'm NOT saying that Kempt is the next Peyton Manning)

 

[jsb]

Read a couple of articles on case Keenan today. Lots of similarities.

 

[CyBlitz]

If Zeb can learn to play smart, like Kyle, in the off-season I would prefer he start.

He played pretty smart he wasn't the gambler that park was.

 

[cyowan]

Just passing along ... Iowa State is expecting an NCAA decision on Kyle Kempt's shot for a sixth-year "any day now," according to a source. No certainties but I think his chances are significantly higher than when I initially reported that he would apply. Stay tuned.

Sweet. Either way hopefully this will be topic #1 for your podcast with CMC.

 

[great2baclone]

He earned it last year under odd circumstances in the middle of the season. With a full off season competition who know's what could happen. Zeb has a higher ceiling I think, so that would probably entice the staff to give him a chance.

I don't think circumstances of how he g9t an opportunity to play matters. He earned it by his play on the field. I don't think there is anything wrong with competition that's what all good programs have but he should be #1 on depth chart when spring starts because just liked he earned the right to start after injury after this year with his prior play he earned the right to go into spring #; however once practice starts the better man should win. I do think Kyle decision making as far as knowing where to go with the ball when being blitzed it what sets him apart from the others.

 

[bawbie]

Also, the staff isn't bringing Kempt back for a 6th year to have him sit on the bench. They want him back to he can be the starter.

I basically disagree with this. Kempt is the perfect back-up QB. He seems very selfless, impecably prepared, doesn't need a ton of reps in practice and will steady the team if he comes in.

When was the last time we didn't use the backup QB during a season? It's an incredibly important position. In addition he can be a coach/mentor to Zeb.

Obviously, if he is granted another year, it will all depend on spring practice and fall camp, but I could easily see Kempt coming back and being the backup to Zeb.

 

[kccyclone3]

Even if he comes back and doesn't win the job I have to imagine getting a free masters degree if software engineering would not be the end of the world either.

 

[NickTheGreat]

It's because he's "not flashy" or he "doesn't have a big arm"

Our last flashy, big-armed QB lost his mind mid-season, quit the team, and flipped off the whole fan base on his way out.

I don't want flashy.

 

[rholtgraves]

I basically disagree with this. Kempt is the perfect back-up QB. He seems very selfless, impecably prepared, doesn't need a ton of reps in practice and will steady the team if he comes in.

When was the last time we didn't use the backup QB during a season? It's an incredibly important position. In addition he can be a coach/mentor to Zeb.

Obviously, if he is granted another year, it will all depend on spring practice and fall camp, but I could easily see Kempt coming back and being the backup to Zeb.

Except for the fact he proved he is a really good starting QB and better than Noland, I agree with you.

 

[VeloClone]

Agree,.. which is what my post said. Zeb, Kyle, and others a chance to 'earn' it.

Yes, your post did say that but it also appeared to imply that if the situation were different handing the starting job to Kyle might be an option so stating that starting jobs are never simply handed out is a reasonable statement for him to make.

I would almost think that the staff would HAVE to give Zeb a big chance to earn it, regardless. Not just hand it to Kyle, even tho you'd guess he'd be the frontrunner. Otherwise Zeb might look elsewhere. Want them both back of course!

 

[SimpsonCyclone]

Agree,.. which is what my post said. Zeb, Kyle, and others a chance to 'earn' it.

"I would almost think that the staff would HAVE to give Zeb a big chance to earn it, regardless. Not just hand it to Kyle, even tho you'd guess he'd be the frontrunner. Otherwise Zeb might look elsewhere. Want them both back of course!"

See bold. That is why I said what I did. Kyle hasn't been handed anything in his career. The coaches have never handed anything to a player. The WILL give everyone a chance to earn it.

 

[Doc]

Read a couple of articles on case Keenan today. Lots of similarities.

Keenan's quite a bit more mobile. One spot I think Kempt really limited our offense was in our ability to get outside with the run. Park could run the speed option which made it easier for Montgomery to get to the edge. Without that, defenses could pack it in more. ISU tried to run those fake jet sweeps to guys like Murdock to open things up a bit in the middle but I don't think defenses respected that fake a whole lot.

Maybe next year Kene can give ISU more of that, but wouldn't be glorious to fake a jet sweep to Kene and then get Montgomery to the edge going the other way?

 

[intrepid27]

I basically disagree with this. Kempt is the perfect back-up QB. He seems very selfless, impecably prepared, doesn't need a ton of reps in practice and will steady the team if he comes in.

When was the last time we didn't use the backup QB during a season? It's an incredibly important position. In addition he can be a coach/mentor to Zeb.

Obviously, if he is granted another year, it will all depend on spring practice and fall camp, but I could easily see Kempt coming back and being the backup to Zeb.

I was thinking just the opposite. If I want a back-up QB off the bench (outside of injury) it usually means one of two things. You are behind, and starting QB is struggling, in that case I want a big armed risk taker. Or, it is mop up time. In that case, give the 2nd string relievers someone who can put them on the highlight reel. Zeb coming off the bench makes perfect sense to me.

 

[jsb]

I basically disagree with this. Kempt is the perfect back-up QB. He seems very selfless, impecably prepared, doesn't need a ton of reps in practice and will steady the team if he comes in.

When was the last time we didn't use the backup QB during a season? It's an incredibly important position. In addition he can be a coach/mentor to Zeb.

Obviously, if he is granted another year, it will all depend on spring practice and fall camp, but I could easily see Kempt coming back and being the backup to Zeb.

Who knows?

I do know the coaches had ample opportunity to turn things over to zeb this year. If they thought he was better, the injury would have been easy way to move Kempt aside. And I think they would have done it. Last year they did it to Lanning to the point where they didn’t play him at all in the last game (when the offense was struggling). And now Campbell basically cries every time he talks about Joel, he lived him so much.

So I feel like the coaches honestly thought Kempt was better this year. I don’t think loyalty to him played into it. And, therefore, if he’s back I think zeb would have to improve (and he very easily could!) to start.

 

[Stewo]

It's because he's "not flashy" or he "doesn't have a big arm"

If Zeb was the starter against Iowa and (probably) Texas, we likely win those games. I don't care if Kempt doesn't fit the typical mold of a "successful" QB because like others have mentioned, the results speak for themselves.

 

[Clonefan32]

What was the deal with his shoulder? From what I recall, it wasn't as though it was injured on a specific play or anything-- right? I wonder if it was kind of like a baseball pitcher with "dead arm" where it is more fatigue than anything. In any event, if he does get another year and is our starter I hope his shoulder can hold up an entire year.