Lanning versus Richardson.

Cyclonepride

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Reading issues? ...I compared what happened against Texas AND OU to what happened against TCU.

But just to appease you...

We punted six times against Texas and turned it over on downs another. 8 out of twelve drives yielded no points against a poor Texas team. Seven out of ten drives against TCU yielded no points. Both games had one 3 and out. both games had 4 play drives. One game had two fumbles and one in the red zone. One didn't have any. 461 total yards agasint TCU. 426 total yards against Texas.

There...I took OU out of the equation.

Texas is mostly poor on offense.
 

tazclone

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I've always thought those guys + SR were totally overrated and really not that talented. I like Lanning way more than I like any of those guys. Lanning has something, I'm not sure if it will translate to success as a QB at ISU. He probably would have had a better impact if he would have made the switch to LB or gone and played Pro Baseball. those other guys you can't say that about, they were just victims of the ISU fan overhype our own players syndrome.
How about Seneca Wallace? I think he was a great QB but he had three wins against teams with winning records and two of those were against iowa. Sam has two. Seneca never faired to well against the top in the league with blowout loses to Nebraska, OU,KSU(twice), Colorado and a loss to Boisie St and Conneticut.

I am not saying Sam is anywhere close to Seneca but even a great QB like Seneca but even a great QB/athlete like Seneca couldn't do it all himself.
 

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How about Seneca Wallace? I think he was a great QB but he had three wins against teams with winning records and two of those were against iowa. Sam has two. Seneca never faired to well against the top in the league with blowout loses to Nebraska, OU,KSU(twice), Colorado and a loss to Boisie St and Conneticut.

I am not saying Sam is anywhere close to Seneca but even a great QB like Seneca but even a great QB/athlete like Seneca couldn't do it all himself.

Well Seneca did beat a ranked Nebraska a ranked Iowa, a ranked Texas Tech and really a ranked FSU all in 2002 before the great collapse.
 

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I thought that Lanning was not great, the WRs were not great, and the OL was not great. I also thought that Sturdy could have called a much better game. Almost every first down was a RB run. There were only a handful of times when Lanning had designated runs, and on most of those he had good gains. Still too many WR screens.
 

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I would like a fact-check on speed. I think SBR might be faster from comments and games watched. I prefer Lanning, but using Sam as a change-up for a series might keep the defenses off balance. I haven't seen the OU game yet.
 

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The only thing that truly drives me nuts about Joel Lanning is the following passes which seem to happen 50% of the time he throws.

QB...............................................Ball..............WR

Lead them, brother. Stop constantly under throwing the ball. Sure, you were praised for it when you under threw Lazard and he saved you and scored a touchdown, but shoot, that can't happen so often.
 

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Diversity is our strength at quarterback.

I will be legit ****** if Sam does not get to try his hand in either of the first two series. What are we?
 

dirtyninety

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The only thing that truly drives me nuts about Joel Lanning is the following passes which seem to happen 50% of the time he throws.

QB...............................................Ball..............WR

Lead them, brother. Stop constantly under throwing the ball. Sure, you were praised for it when you under threw Lazard and he saved you and scored a touchdown, but shoot, that can't happen so often.

In America today, you could be called a bully. And I would call for more muscle to have you removed.
 

tazclone

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Well Seneca did beat a ranked Nebraska a ranked Iowa, a ranked Texas Tech and really a ranked FSU all in 2002 before the great collapse.
Only iowa and TT finished with winning records and if we want to include wins stolen by the jaws of officials add Texas to Sam's.

again...I am in no way saying Sam is anywhere close to Seneca. He isn't. Just saying that a QB can't do it all himself against great competition. I am using Seneca as an example because he was much better in year one when he had a running game and a little better OL.
 

Clonefan94

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I've always thought those guys + SR were totally overrated and really not that talented. I like Lanning way more than I like any of those guys. Lanning has something, I'm not sure if it will translate to success as a QB at ISU. He probably would have had a better impact if he would have made the switch to LB or gone and played Pro Baseball. those other guys you can't say that about, they were just victims of the ISU fan overhype our own players syndrome.

Mind if I ask what that "something" is?

That's another phrase or similar to what I always hear about ISU QBs who are fresh at ISU.

Tiller was a "Gamer"

Steele "Has a more Upside"

Richardson "Has something" Yeah, I heard that plenty of times after ISU beat Kansas in his first real playing time game.

I just don't see it, at least not to the way some people on here do. It's the same story over and over with ISU QBs. Great first game against a bad team, then downhill from there. But the real kicker is, it's not their fault. Joel can't keep OU from scoring and when an ISU team gets down quick to a good team. It's game over. This coaching staff doesn't know how to get a team out of a hole against a quality opponent. They don't know how to adapt. When their game plan works, all is well and they keep going with it. If it doesn't work, they keep going with it, and put ISU deeper in a hole.

I'm sorry, I think Joel looks marginally better than SB. So far though, he hasn't done anything that makes me think things are going to drastically change under this staff.
 

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Mind if I ask what that "something" is?

That's another phrase or similar to what I always hear about ISU QBs who are fresh at ISU.

Tiller was a "Gamer"

Steele "Has a more Upside"

Richardson "Has something" Yeah, I heard that plenty of times after ISU beat Kansas in his first real playing time game.

I just don't see it, at least not to the way some people on here do. It's the same story over and over with ISU QBs. Great first game against a bad team, then downhill from there. But the real kicker is, it's not their fault. Joel can't keep OU from scoring and when an ISU team gets down quick to a good team. It's game over. This coaching staff doesn't know how to get a team out of a hole against a quality opponent. They don't know how to adapt. When their game plan works, all is well and they keep going with it. If it doesn't work, they keep going with it, and put ISU deeper in a hole.

I'm sorry, I think Joel looks marginally better than SB. So far though, he hasn't done anything that makes me think things are going to drastically change under this staff.

I just said I didn't see that "something" in any of those other guys. Never thought Tiller was anything more than a back up QB, never thought Jantz was anything more than a prayer. Richardson, never saw anything but backup in him either.
 
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