Last time when we were in the tourney as a 6 seed against 11 seed Ohio State...does anyone recall what sort of seed line people were predicting for us BEFORE we won the Big 12 tourney? 7? Were we on the 8/9 line?
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That's a good question.
I think this is based off of RPI- Had some decent wins.. I'd argue this year we have better wins but maybe not.
Potentially (likely) 2 more losses to tack on our record won't help us look great. Neither are bad losses, but it feels like one more big win is needed to bolster us up to the 6 line.
6 seed is top 25 in the country. This team does not look like a top 25 team.
Right, but they won the tournament. This year's team wins the tournament, then hell they may jump to a 5 or 4. Winning the tournament from where Iowa St will be seeded would likely require them beating #12 Texas Tech, #3 Baylor, and #6 Kansas.
It's not right now, at all. We're living off a legacy from December. I don't think you can overstate how pathetic last night was, and although its the absolute worst example ever, it wasn't out of character to say ignore it. This team could lose to the worst team in the tourney by 20 and yes, maybe beat a good one, but that 'proof' is not as recent mostly.
That said, we'll probably beat Baylor on a long 3 by IB.
Pretty sure we were in the 9ish zone prior to the Big 12 tourney. 3 big wins got us to the 6.
Take out the wins in the Big 12 tourney last year and this year is unquestionably better wins.
Obviously we would jump a few seeds. That's not my question or point. I was asking what we were likely seeded before the tournament that year because I bet it was pretty close to this year.
You may be correct -- I can't go by memory at all and I'm not sure where to find the info for pre-B12T projection - but I'd be surprised if we jumped 3 seed lines (although each of those wins was significant). I'm guessing we were a low-7, high-8. Just a hunch. I realize I'm splitting hairs, but 9 to a 6 is minimum 10 slots. [It's possible there was other downward movement near our seed area, too, but I have no recollection of that, either ... so a 9-to-6 certainly was possible]
If you're going by memory, I won't officially refute it - I don't recall and I'm not sure where to find the info for pre-B12T projection - I'd be surprised if we jumped 3 seed lines (although each of those wins was significant). I'm guessing we were a low-7, high-8. Just a hunch. I realize that's splitting hairs, but 9 to a 6 is minimum 10 slots.
Weird how Arizona wound up being a Quad 3 loss that season ... jogs my memory, seems like we considered that a "reasonable loss" when it occurred, then Arizona's season eventually went off the rail.
yeah i don't remember exactly. I know that we were definitely not close to a 6. So 8/9 is most likely because I remember thinking it was a bit of a miracle that we landed on a 6 after that season had been mostly an unpleasant experience.
After thinking a bit, seems like at the time I expected a 7 after the tournament win - so 8/9 range was probably in the mix prior to postseason. Lost last 3, 5 of final 6, 6 of last 8 -- it was trending poorly.
Growing up in the 80s and 90s, it was inevitable that most of your friends would be Hawkeye fans. And as we know, basketball isn't really their thing.
I think before Wednesday we were firmly on the 7 line with a realistic shot of moving up to the 6 line with a couple more wins.
Now we are more likely between a 7/8 seed. Won't drop much more with a road and neutral game against top 10 teams but we're probably in an 8/9 game if we lose both as expected.
Now we are more likely between a 7/8 seed. Won't drop much more with a road and neutral game against top 10 teams but we're probably in an 8/9 game if we lose both as expected.
I think people are underselling the amount of quad 1 wins we have.
Next team ranked lower than our 41 NET ranking that is high on the list is Rutgers with 6 Quad 1 wins and a 75 NET Ranking. Marquette and TCU are ranked 36 and 44 and have 6 wins each. Lunardi has TCU and Marquette as 8 seeds and dropped us to an 8 seed. Don't see how we aren't a 7 with 3 more quad 1 wins than them.
Only knock on our resume imo is being 1-4 in Quad 2 games.
The 7 seeds from Lunardi are Michigan State(40 Net, 4-9 Quad 1), Boise State(30 Net, 4-2 Quad 1), USC(31 Net, 4-2 Quad 1), Colorado State(28 Net, 4-2 Quad 1). There is one team out of those 4 that sticks out like a sore thumb.
Just my 2 cents. And disclaimer I'm not putting stock in Lunradi being the end all. Just using it as a reference.
Edit: https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/college-basketball-ncaa-tournament-quadrant-1-wins/
Next team ranked lower than our 41 NET ranking that is high on the list is Rutgers with 6 Quad 1 wins and a 75 NET Ranking. Marquette and TCU are ranked 36 and 44 and have 6 wins each. Lunardi has TCU and Marquette as 8 seeds and dropped us to an 8 seed. Don't see how we aren't a 7 with 3 more quad 1 wins than them.
Only knock on our resume imo is being 1-4 in Quad 2 games.
The 7 seeds from Lunardi are Michigan State(40 Net, 4-9 Quad 1), Boise State(30 Net, 4-2 Quad 1), USC(31 Net, 4-2 Quad 1), Colorado State(28 Net, 4-2 Quad 1). There is one team out of those 4 that sticks out like a sore thumb.
Just my 2 cents. And disclaimer I'm not putting stock in Lunradi being the end all. Just using it as a reference.
Edit: https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/college-basketball-ncaa-tournament-quadrant-1-wins/
I agree. I honestly have no idea how Michigan State is anything better than a 9 right now. Losing 7 of 9 for a basically any other team and they're playing in Dayton.
