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[swarthmoreCY]

I'm sure if it goes on hiatus you'll see an increase in year round events to open up the campus to alumni, without giving every party house in Ames the exact same target date to throw their rager.

I am sure they would try, but if they are not competent enough to come up with a plan to salvage VEISHEA, I doubt their plan will be an equitable replacement. Iowa State is just a stop for Leath, I understand why he took the easy road and will let his successor deal with coming up with a real solution. That may be what is needed, but a permanent ban is not.

There are some systemic issues that have evolved in the last 25 years that facilitated last night and previous mob events. With the correct leadership the vision and execution of VEISHEA can successfully evolve with that.

 

[johnnydugouts]

this is why we cant have nice things.

 

[ISUagger]

Even as a former committee member I think VEISHEA should be permanently be cancelled. It's pretty well known that most people associate VEISHEA with rioting, and that is an expected notion. That was obvious early this week when many posters here were being nostalgic about earlier riots. All the good things students have done for eight months to organize events has just gone out the window. It all was a giant waste of their time. Rioting is a reputation that we cannot shake, and I seriously doubt we can fix it. So thanks to all the ******** who ruined a great thing, you are terrible people.

 

[Dreamyfred]

LOL @ Leath. What a failing dufus. Good job banning all the stupid stuff that majority of students dont care about like pies and parades!! Students are still going to party this week, every year, official or not. I mean the riots started when the cops decided to break up a non-violent house party on veishea. so much fails

 

[CysRage]

If VEISHEA is cancelled, what is to stop it from becoming something similar to 'Unofficial' like they do at University of Illinois? Then you have only the negative partying and none of the great community events. I'm not saying it will happen but that would be cutting your nose off to spite your own face, if you ask me.

I think this is exactly what will happen if they ban VEISHEA forever. The presence of social media will make it very easy to happen too. The university would arguably be making the issue worse since the partying will be the only thing and not the sober VEISHEA events like we all know.

 

[2forISU]

Maybe move Veisha earlier in the year. Warm veisha's seem to always be more out of control than colder veisha's.

Couped up all winter, time to party.

 

[MNCyGuy]

You're missing the point.

Ending Veishea because of rare (but regular) misbehavior by a handful of individuals is incredibly short sighted. The tailgating analogy was to illustrate the fact that people get drunk and hurt themselves, or others, during other University sanctioned events, yet we don't blame those events for those negative behaviors.

Veishea DOES bring a party atmosphere. But it's not responsible for the misdeeds of a few, and it has brought far more good than bad over the years, and will continue to be that way. Even if someone gets hurt occasionally.

I agree with some of this, but I don't really think it's reasonable to just expect the university to look the other way on the connection between VEISHEA-parties-occasional riots. Did you really think he was going to address the press and say "most years this doesn't happen, so we're not going to change a damn thing"?

 

[IowaStateClones]

LOL @ Leath. What a failing dufus. Good job banning all the stupid stuff that majority of students dont care about like pies and parades!! Students are still going to party this week, every year, official or not. I mean the riots started when the cops decided to break up a non-violent house party on veishea. so much fails

Take it easy, frat boy

 

[IcSyU]

LOL @ Leath. What a failing dufus. Good job banning all the stupid stuff that majority of students dont care about like pies and parades!! Students are still going to party this week, every year, official or not. I mean the riots started when the cops decided to break up a non-violent house party on veishea. so much fails

They won't party this week every year. People are here because it's VEISHEA. If the week isn't labeled next year people aren't just going to show up. It'll be like every other weekend of the year, just with a spring game and Cy's House of Trivia added.

 

[tm3308]

Four words: Assumption of the risk

Not that the person deserved it, but odds are you aren't that far into the middle of a riot on accident. You made a choice to be there, and when property is being purposefully destroyed, the odds of being injured increase significantly.

I really don't see how this changes the problem in any way. Where has it been suggested that he's just some innocent little butterfly that's been hurt by the evils of VEISHEA/college drinking? The fact that he was (very likely) part of the problem doesn't change the fact that the problem exists and the university needs to find a way to deal with it.

 

[everyyard]

Couped up all winter, time to party.

Yes, that is what I'm getting at. They may still party this week and even riot , but it won't have veishea's name on it. Maybe move it to homecoming week so alum can be outside but if you want very little chance of riots have it in February.

 

[tm3308]

Yes, that is what I'm getting at. They may still party this week and even riot , but it won't have veishea's name on it. Maybe move it to homecoming week so alum can be outside but if you want very little chance of riots have it in February.

When is ISU's spring break? I'm not sure how it would go if it were really close to spring break; maybe everybody's worn out from their trips to Florida, or maybe they approach it like an extended party.

 

[MNCyGuy]

They won't party this week every year. People are here because it's VEISHEA. If the week isn't labeled next year people aren't just going to show up. It'll be like every other weekend of the year, just with a spring game and Cy's House of Trivia added.

This is what I think too and why I disagree with the "party's will happen and cancelling/hiatus-ing VEISHEA will have no effect" hypothesis.

Permanent cancellation would be a damn shame, but a good 4-5 year hiatus to get all the idiots that would egg on new students with "it's not VEISHEA until we riot" talk at least off campus and hopefully with a little more perspective as young alumni, would probably clear the air and hopefully let it come back as a better and stronger event.

 

[tm3308]

This is what I think too and why I disagree with the "party's will happen and cancelling/hiatus-ing VEISHEA will have no effect" hypothesis.

Permanent cancellation would be a damn shame, but a good 4-5 year hiatus to get all the idiots that would egg on new students with "it's not VEISHEA until we riot" talk at least off campus and hopefully with a little more perspective as young alumni, would probably clear the air and hopefully let it come back as a better and stronger event.

This.

 

[Cyclonesince78]

Probably should merge all 3 threads.

 

[Dreamyfred]

Take it easy, frat boy

Lol I'm an alum, and do not think I have ever set foot in a frat house. With social media, students are going to make Veishea week the time for the best parties of the year. They'll just be missing the ghetto hot dog stands by lake laverne an overpriced bar tabs, ohh nooes

 

[swarthmoreCY]

They won't party this week every year. People are here because it's VEISHEA. If the week isn't labeled next year people aren't just going to show up. It'll be like every other weekend of the year, just with a spring game and Cy's House of Trivia added.

I recommend you become familiar with "Unofficial".

 

[mj4cy]

LOL @ Leath. What a failing dufus. Good job banning all the stupid stuff that majority of students dont care about like pies and parades!! Students are still going to party this week, every year, official or not. I mean the riots started when the cops decided to break up a non-violent house party on veishea. so much fails

I see you like your own post so much you gave it a thumbs up.


I believe you are wrong in the majority of students do care about more than just partying. I was one to enjoy Welch during Veishea, but also attended many other events the whole week that had nothing to do with alcohol.

No one wins in this situation, but Leath's hands were tied. I'm sure you'll still be able to find a party.

 

[tm3308]

I recommend you become familiar with "Unofficial".

Good luck to students trying to organize anything "unofficial" that's on the scale of VEISHEA. That might fly for a year or two, but interest will eventually fade under those circumstances.

 

[MNCyGuy]

I recommend you become familiar with "Unofficial".

I'm sure there would be an unofficial movement, but I don't think it would be to the level you see now.