2023-24 Men's Basketball Standings - Big 12 Conference
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How many times must you be told that conference records don’t matter.
Let's talk B12 bubbles ...
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How many times must you be told that conference records don’t matter.
I said they look similar to me. If K-State sweeps Iowa State, that's an issue.
I agree with this. ISU could potentially get in with no more wins. Would be an interesting case to a see what would happen to a 5-13 conference team that had several more Quad 1 wins than other bubble teams. I'm sure none of you are anxious to find out.
No it isn't at all. It's not like losing twice to a Missouri or a Nebraska. ISU would still have no Q3 or Q4 losses.
It's only an issue if ISU also loses to WVU and OSU.
2023-24 Men's Basketball Standings - Big 12 Conference
The official 2023-24 Men's Basketball Standings for Big 12 Conference
Just absolutely, completely stupid. So you're not a troll at least.
A bevy of items to show Iowa State is better and nearly off the bubble.
One thing (conf record) to showcase a meaningful similarity.
Just don't look at overall record, metrics, record vs quality opponents and, yeah, we're pretty close.
One thing (conf record) to showcase a meaningful similarity.
Just don't look at overall record, metrics, record vs quality opponents and, yeah, we're pretty close.
Zero wins = outside chance at sneaking into Dayton
1 win = in
2+ wins = in as a single digit seed
K-State - beat ISU and OU or zero chance
ISU - in with split versus WVU, K-State, oSu, BU
TCU - troubled waters with Texas, TxT, and two v. Ku looming
OU - cooked
WVU - dead
I don't think KSU stands a chance unless they win 5-6 games (and they only have 3 regular season remaining). They're currently at 14 wins and their resume won't get them in even if they win all 3. So they better hope for a deep run in the Big 12 tournament.
Not really. Just how our Iowa State ladies have gotten absolutely massacred against Texas both times yet we could win the Big 12 or at worst finish ahead of Texas in the standings. Matchups, matchups, matchups. And the Clones choked the game away in Ames against K State. Full credit to the Cats for reeling it back in and pulling it off. But let's not act like this is K State being clearly better than ISU in any way.
I think KSU could get by with 3 more wins provided that at least one of them was against Tech in Lubbock (very unlikely) or one of KU, Tech or Baylor in the Big 12 Tournament (tough but doable). Any one of those would be a Quad 1a win.
Going all the way back to 2011 the lowest at-large resume prior to last year's Covid tourney was basically a 19 win team. OU did make it into the tourny in 2018 with 18 wins, but their wins were pretty solid. Oklahoma State made it in with 18 in 2015. So KSU really needs some high quality wins and an absolute minimum FOUR more for any chance (and I don't think that will do it).
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I’m really worried the Surly committee will have us out come selection Sunday.
iowa state losing a quad 1 game isn't an issue for them.
so whose it an issue for?
not an issue for k-state. theyd pick up a quad 1 win themselves which they need.
If K-State doesn't make the NCAA field most of us believe he should and will be gone. He's has a lot of credibility down here based on the two B12 championships and E8. Plus, he runs a clean ship.
But things have soured, attendance is awful. This is the year he has to turn it around.
Good dude. Hate to see him go. His players love him. But facing the brutal facts, I don't see him surviving without a tournament bid.
