look whose having second thoughts ...
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but ISU, while in the big 8, never allowed partial qualifiers right? Or never allowed very many?
I remember back in the late 80's/early 90's my old man ******** about that
Exactly right. Nebraska is PSU 2.0...a nice B1G program that was formerly great.
That is because iowa fans think they matter like nebbie.
The delusion of that group is just shameful.
nebbie left the conference because of osborn noone else. he realized that they would never ever catch up to Texas.
So, he thought he would go to that piece of **** of a conference, and dominate. Well, the program is a shell of what it was, so they win a pathetic division, but that is like being the ferris wheel operator at the county fair.
What that move did was solidify all of their other sports, they gained in basketball, wrestling, volleyball (which was already dominant), and the rest.
But he thought he had low hanging fruit with how just ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE that conference is. But what they didn't take in to consideration was what an outlier they really are. They are the far western school in a conference that is moving east and south. They lost out a lot on the Texas pipeline, and with the improved play in the PAC 12, they aren't getting the skill players out West anymore.
When that piece of garbage dies, there will be a special place in hell for what he did to the citizenry of Lincoln with all of the felons he inflicted on them.
You guys and your CIC BS. Yes...we are missing out on a great opportunity to have access to a shared database. Whoopie!
Not being in the CIC has done nothing to hold ISU research back. The additional benefits are very limited.
Nebraska fled a controlling husband for a rich abusive @sshole.
Now she's finally realized she's not that pretty, she can't do much better, and what she had before with Mr. Big 12 wasn't all that bad.
We'll take you back, darling. Everyone makes mistakes.
Now she's finally realized she's not that pretty, she can't do much better, and what she had before with Mr. Big 12 wasn't all that bad.
We'll take you back, darling. Everyone makes mistakes.
I agree - never heard of this and had to look it up. Seems like the other Big 10 schools just threw UChicago an academic bone when they kicked them out of athletics way back in the day.
I'm pretty sure that University of Chicago opted to disband it's athletic department way back in the day. I seem to remember reading an article about them basically seeing the writing on the wall for how corrupt college athletics was going to become.
Also, it's been 3 years. I can't believe all the people still so bent out of shape over Nebraska leaving that they would hypothetically favor hurting Nebraska over helping the Big 12 and by extension Iowa State.
If having Nebraska back could benefit the Big 12 I would be in favor of signing them to an iron clad agreement. If their joining would not help the conference, I would much rather add a Florida State with some recruiting advantages and let Nebraska play with Iowa in a Minnesota bathroom.
Their full BIG share kicks in 2017. They probably gave up money to switch conferences.
Late to the party on this one...
If the CIC was so important for academic research, inclusion would not be dictated by membership in an athletic conference.
If the CIC was so important for academic research, inclusion would not be dictated by membership in an athletic conference.
I think UNL will indeed benefit greatly from CIC inclusion. I never stated we're missing out or that ISU research was being held back but I do think that it's significant enough that if offered inclusion ISU should take it. I think ISU would be better off with it than without it. It's not simply a database and if it can increase research funding for us while creating advantageous partnerships I'm all for it.
Regarding Rutgers and Maryland I think their B1G/CIC inclusion went hand in hand since they fit the profile of the other CIC institutions while adding population centers to the B1G.
Big Ten membership = CIC membership. Pretty clear on their website. The real irony is Neb's loss of their AAU membership the same summer as their admittance into the Big Ten. Which we, btw, are a member of. U of Chicago left athletics after a new college president decided to stop comprising UC admissions for football athletes in 1939.
Surprisingly, I don't miss NU. I'd take Missouri if I had the choice. I was a fan of the Big Ten but their most recent expansion still confounds me. Yes, they are large schools with football and in time perhaps they will grow into the league, but the Big Ten brand I grew up with is no where now what it was. Catch a Purdue game on TV this fall? no? it's ok - they didn't watch either. At least they'll have Maryland to keep them company - pulling in about 38,000 for home games.
To think, too, that OU and Texas could have gone anywhere they choose - and they picked to remain in the Big 12.
Surprisingly, I don't miss NU. I'd take Missouri if I had the choice. I was a fan of the Big Ten but their most recent expansion still confounds me. Yes, they are large schools with football and in time perhaps they will grow into the league, but the Big Ten brand I grew up with is no where now what it was. Catch a Purdue game on TV this fall? no? it's ok - they didn't watch either. At least they'll have Maryland to keep them company - pulling in about 38,000 for home games.
To think, too, that OU and Texas could have gone anywhere they choose - and they picked to remain in the Big 12.
Delaney wants to break the NCAA. The CIC and the university presidents are the only thing in his way, although that's a significant blockade. Don't be surprised if one day in the distant future if the entire Big 12 is combined with the B1G in some way, and perhaps some others.
if the break ever occurs it will probably include some sort of rationalization of the current conference madness. i could see a midwest league that's essentially the big10 including isu. a great plains league, the old big12, including the nubs and missouri. a northeast league, the old big east with penn state. and so on ...
