Mark Cuban Looks to End the BCS

[CycloneJames]

I too think the "and 1" is the best idea. I would be okay with an 8 team playoff, but I don't really think its necessary. Although even with an 8 team playoff I do think they could figure it out to still use the bowl games.

And I don't think the basketball analogy really applies. The tournament is over in 3 weeks. A 16 team football playoff would take at least 4 weeks, and thats if there is only 1 week between the games. But when are you going to play the games? Are you going to have 3 weeks to prepare for the 1st game and then only 1 week for every other game? That seems silly to me.

 

[acrozier22]

Gotta give the guy credit for at least trying to do something. Even if he fails, he could influence a lot of change.

 

[chadm]

16 team playoff has worked for the FCS (1AA) for years. The regular season games still mean something.

 

[CycloneJames]

16 team playoff has worked for the FCS (1AA) for years. The regular season games still mean something.

Actually, the FCS playoffs expanded to 20 teams this year. So 20 out of 124 teams or 16% of the teams make the playoffs. Here are the teams and records (pre-playoffs) that made the playoffs: #1 App St (9-2), #2 William & Mary (8-3), #3 Delaware (9-2), #4 Montana St (9-2), #5 Eastern Washington (9-2), Coastal Carolina (6-5), Western Illinois (7-4), Stephen F Austin (9-2), Villanova (7-4), SE Missouri St (9-2), North Dakota St (7-4), Robert Morris (8-2), Northern Iowa (7-4), Lehigh (9-2), Bethune-Cookman (10-1), New Hampshire (7-4), Jacksonville St (9-2), Wofford (9-2), Georgia Southern (7-4), South Carolina St (9-2).

Now obviously most (if not all - I didn't check) of these teams play at least 1 FBS team, so that is pratically a garunteed loss. But still, no thank you to letting teams with 4 and 5 losses into a playoff. You just think it has "worked" because no one pays attention to it.

 

[simply1]

what coach is going to want to play 3-4 extra post season games in football to win a championship? that just seems to hard on kids in my opinion.

The kids at UNI seem to do okay with it.

 

[PGreen ISU '92]

11 Conference Champions + 5 At-Large Teams = 16 Team Playoff; 4 Weeks; Do it!!!

 

[ketchupnmustard]

Mark Cuban vs. the BCS

It might be a good thing but there is no way the Jim Delaney's of the college football world let this happen.

 

[ketchupnmustard]

Ask what his Maverick players think of him and then go ask what the Clippers players think of their owner and then get back to me.

He is one of the best owners in sports and does what it takes to put his team in a position to win. In regard to his antics, the minute you forget this is entertainment, you lose.

buying PS3's for the locker rooms and being buddies with players does not make you a great owner. It makes you a jersey chaser with money.

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Cuban is a good owner. Remember what the Mav's were like before he bought them? Doormats of the NBA. The Mav's might not have rings right now, but they are almost always in the playoffs.

This venture into college football will probably not succeed for the very same reason MLB owners ("Get off my lawn!") will not let Cuban own a baseball team.

 

[cyfan15]

Actually, the FCS playoffs expanded to 20 teams this year. So 20 out of 124 teams or 16% of the teams make the playoffs. Here are the teams and records (pre-playoffs) that made the playoffs: #1 App St (9-2), #2 William & Mary (8-3), #3 Delaware (9-2), #4 Montana St (9-2), #5 Eastern Washington (9-2), Coastal Carolina (6-5), Western Illinois (7-4), Stephen F Austin (9-2), Villanova (7-4), SE Missouri St (9-2), North Dakota St (7-4), Robert Morris (8-2), Northern Iowa (7-4), Lehigh (9-2), Bethune-Cookman (10-1), New Hampshire (7-4), Jacksonville St (9-2), Wofford (9-2), Georgia Southern (7-4), South Carolina St (9-2).

Now obviously most (if not all - I didn't check) of these teams play at least 1 FBS team, so that is pratically a garunteed loss. But still, no thank you to letting teams with 4 and 5 losses into a playoff. You just think it has "worked" because no one pays attention to it.

Bingo. College football is the most entertaining of all sports because every single game matters. If you slip up even once, your national title hopes could be over. And you sure as hell better not lose twice. There isn't any other sport that places as much emphasis on the regular season.

A playoff throws that out the window. Even a "conference champions only" playoff would be flawed. Look at 2008. Why should 9-4 Virginia Tech get in over 11-1 Texas who just finished on the wrong side of a tiebreaker in the Big 12 South?

There's no great way to do it, but I'll take a great regular season over a perfect conclusion. The Plus One or four-team playoff or whatever you want to call it is a good compromise as long as they're smart about how they set it up.

 

[jbhtexas]

Cuban has some qualities of a good owner, but he's not there yet. He understands that his team needs certain resources to be successful, and he's willing to provide those.

What he hasn't quite figured out is that the Dallas Mavericks need to be about the Dallas Mavericks, not about Mark Cuban. Somewhere around 5 years ago, the players and coaches were about ready to kill Cuban (figuratively of course) for his silly antics during games and his constant off-court bashing of the refs and NBA. A number of them (including Dirk) publically called him out. He was interfering with his team.

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It's pretty difficult to consider someone as a good owner when his players have to call out his disruptive behavior in public. Cuban is less visible now with the Mavericks than he was back then, so maybe he's learning.

An example of a "good" owner is Jerry Buss. He hires good people, lets them do their jobs, and provides the support neede to make the team work. As far as the Lakers go, he generally works behind the scenes instead of in the public eye. He lets the Lakers be about the Lakers. When Buss does show up in public, it's in something that doesn't detract from the Lakers (i.e. professional poker tour), not sitting on the sideline screaming at the refs. The result? Ten NBA titles. When Cuban gets one NBA title, then we'll talk about him being a good owner.

Cuban has all the financial resources he needs to make the Mavericks a title team (far more than Jerry Buss has). So far, he hasn't been able to do it. There's a reason for that.

 

[cycloneworld]

11 Conference Champions + 5 At-Large Teams = 16 Team Playoff; 4 Weeks; Do it!!!

A playoff throws that out the window. Even a "conference champions only" playoff would be flawed. Look at 2008. Why should 9-4 Virginia Tech get in over 11-1 Texas who just finished on the wrong side of a tiebreaker in the Big 12 South?

Not if you do it this way.

And you can keep all the meaningless Beef O'Brady bowls as well.

 

[Clark]

I don't want the Conf USA, MAC, WAC (without Boise St) champions in any playoff of under 32 teams.

I think the fairest way is to put automatic qualifying rules similar to the current BCS. Here's how i would set up a 16 team playoff:

Rule 1: A team must finish within the top 25 of the final BCS rankings in order to qualify for a playoff spot (eliminates conference champions with mediocre records)

Rule 2: Any conference champion that meets the requirements of rule 1 is guaranteed a spot in the playoffs.

Rule 3: All of the teams remaining will be selected according to BCS rankings with a limit of three teams per conference (try to at least preserve some regular season meaning)

So this year the playoffs would look like this:

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Auburn* vs Utah
Oregon* vs Nevada
TCU* vs Ok St
Wisconsin* vs Missouri
Oklahoma* vs Boise St*
Stanford vs Va Tech*
Ohio State vs LSU
Arkansas vs Mich St

*automatic qualifier

Two things: notice no Big East representative. UConn wasn't in the top 25 so they didn't qualify. Also, notice that even though Alabama, A&M, and Nebraska was ranked ahead of Utah they didn't qualify because three SEC & Big 12 teams had already qualified.

Teams in playoff per conference:

SEC-3
Big 10-3
Big 12-3
Pac 10-2
ACC-1
MWC-2
WAC-2