Matt Painter to Mizzou?

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Is Painter a good coach, or was he just lucky he had JaJuan Johnson and E'twaun Moore?
 

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Didn't he recruit them? Along with Hummel?

It seems like that year was one flukey recruiting class. If I remember right they were all from the Indianapolis area and fell into his lap a bit. His recruiting has really fallen off since that class.
 

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Is Painter a good coach, or was he just lucky he had JaJuan Johnson and E'twaun Moore?


In 6 years at Purdue, he has taken them to the NCAA tournament the last five. His Purdue team has finished 2nd in the big10 3 times and tied for 1st once in the last four years. A couple Sweet 16's to help pad the resume.


Yeah, he can coach.
 

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With quality young coaches with a chip on their shoulder like Shaka Smart and Bradley Stevens, it would be like Mizzou to completely F this one up hiring Painter just because they have money.

Painter already has the under-achieving down, so he will fit right in at Mizzou.
 
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I don't really know a lot about either program but unless the money at Mizzou is better, I have to think that Purdue is a better job. Better recruiting ground, more history. I mean really what does Mizzou have? What did they have before Anderson? Didn't he really make them relevant?

Whoa...You must be very young.

Norm Stewart was at Mizzu for a long time, and won a LOT of games over his tenure. They, along with Kansas and KState were THE programs in the Big 8.

Missouri is certainly a top 25 job. Purdue is in that category as well. I would say the Walmart money, and an ad that is willing to pay coaches gives Mizzu a slight advantage.

Wow, that fox 12 arrogance is really showing up with some of the "people" in this thread. Purdue was good with Keady, winning fox 12 titles, but they never went to the final 4. And he was one of the first One seeds to ever lose in the second round (when they barely beat the 16 seed in the first round).

The fact that a coach like Painter would go to Missouri, should tell you something about the history of the school.
 

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That's true. Like I said, for almost anyone, Purdue would be the better job with the tradition and recruiting ground. Objectively, it's the better job. Painter has a personal issue with the AD which may make the Mizzou job better for him. That is subjective.

What? NO your fox 12 bias makes it a better job to you.

I think that they are about equal, but I also have read up on the history of basketball outside of my own little tiny box, as you have apparently failed to do.

Missouri has a pretty decent basketball tradition itself. It has been shown that you can win there, look it up.

I guesse I shouldn't be amazed that the same people on here are trying their damndest to prop up the fox 12. All of that money they have over there, and noone past the sweet 16
 

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Missouri seems to have the money to spend so that might make the difference.
But I suspect he's using the situation to get a better contract at Purdue.
 

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In 6 years at Purdue, he has taken them to the NCAA tournament the last five. His Purdue team has finished 2nd in the big10 3 times and tied for 1st once in the last four years. A couple Sweet 16's to help pad the resume.


Yeah, he can coach.

With quality young coaches with a chip on their shoulder like Shaka Smart and Bradley Stevens, it would be like Mizzou to completely F this one up hiring Painter just because they have money.

Painter already has the under-achieving down, so he will fit right in at Mizzou.

If that's underachieving, you have some pretty unrealistic expectations.
 

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With quality young coaches with a chip on their shoulder like Shaka Smart and Bradley Stevens, it would be like Mizzou to completely F this one up hiring Painter just because they have money.

Painter already has the under-achieving down, so he will fit right in at Mizzou.

Yeah you should always base your hiring on a couple of games in the NCAA tournament rather than on a seven year body of work. That strategy always works.
 

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i continue to be amazed that people think going to the ncaa's 5 of 6 years from the big team means 1) you can't coach and 2) you can't recruit. painter has several stud committments already for 2012, and made the tourney losing his best player.

the new b12 is going to be brutal if painter is at mizzou, gillespie at ttech, and pastner at OU
 

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i continue to be amazed that people think going to the ncaa's 5 of 6 years from the big team means 1) you can't coach and 2) you can't recruit. painter has several stud committments already for 2012, and made the tourney losing his best player.

the new b12 is going to be brutal if painter is at mizzou, gillespie at ttech, and pastner at OU
Yeah I'm not excited about the idea of Painter possibly coming to Missouri. And, from other school's perspective the new B12 should be alot more difficult with those coaches, & the addition of Hoiberg.
 

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Whoa...You must be very young.

Norm Stewart was at Mizzu for a long time, and won a LOT of games over his tenure. They, along with Kansas and KState were THE programs in the Big 8.

Missouri is certainly a top 25 job. Purdue is in that category as well. I would say the Walmart money, and an ad that is willing to pay coaches gives Mizzu a slight advantage.

Wow, that fox 12 arrogance is really showing up with some of the "people" in this thread. Purdue was good with Keady, winning fox 12 titles, but they never went to the final 4. And he was one of the first One seeds to ever lose in the second round (when they barely beat the 16 seed in the first round).

The fact that a coach like Painter would go to Missouri, should tell you something about the history of the school.
I'm unfamiliar with "Fox 12"...sounds like something of a slang term referring to the old B10. Correct? At any rate, I think the two jobs are similar. Recruiting grounds aren't much different, fan support (no idea of any differences), Missouri pays more, but Purdue has the advantage of their biggest rival in IU being really down right now. If I had to give an answer I'd say Purdue is probably a little bit better of a job, but its a tough call.
 

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I'm unfamiliar with "Fox 12"...sounds like something of a slang term referring to the old B10. Correct? At any rate, I think the two jobs are similar. Recruiting grounds aren't much different, fan support (no idea of any differences), Missouri pays more, but Purdue has the advantage of their biggest rival in IU being really down right now. If I had to give an answer I'd say Purdue is probably a little bit better of a job, but its a tough call.
Missouri is a better job right now. They are gonna be the favorite next year in the Big 12 (if Kansas does lose everyone), meanwhile Purdue is losing their two best players. Painter is a complete ****** though if he's gonna leave his alma mater for a lateral move. Teams can negative recruit the **** out of that.