Moody moved back to Texas

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I would say maybe on making the tourny the past two years - It is becoming obvious that she was very bad for team chemistry. When you eliminate a player that has a bad effect - you never know what is going to happen and who is going to step up.

At the start of the 2012-13 season, she chased off a freshman guard who has since made the tourney both those years, beating us on our home court and making the second weekend this year. Moody is no doubt a talent, but BF has led teams we'd never think could get their to the tourney. Who knows if that other player had stayed and someone else was recruited to replace Moody. Buckley might have come along faster as well. I think he actually gave in to Moody more than he would have preferred this year without Buckley available.

Also wasn't she engaged to an ISU football player last year? Is that still on?
 

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Nikki was drafted #33 to San Antonio. Is that where Pop has been? Best of luck to her.

I'll give her credit for improving and fulfilling a commitment to ISU. But she showed she still needs to grow up. When you leave a place, there's no need to show any ill-will. You never know when that might hurt you professionally.

If she's taking only online courses this semester, she might have planned to do this all along. Maybe that's why she had no locker; she didn't plan to stay.

Edit: Here's what her espn.com WNBA draft pop-up reads: "Coachability became an issue as a senior, but she plays with fire and is willing to take the ball in pressure moments."
 
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Nikki was drafted #33 to San Antonio. Is that where Pop has been? Best of luck to her.

I'll give her credit for improving and fulfilling a commitment to ISU. But she showed she still needs to grow up. When you leave a place, there's no need to show any ill-will. You never know when that might hurt you professionally.

If she's taking only online courses this semester, she might have planned to do this all along. Maybe that's why she had no locker; she didn't plan to stay.

Edit: Here's what her espn.com WNBA draft pop-up reads: "Coachability became an issue as a senior, but she plays with fire and is willing to take the ball in pressure moments."

I really find it hard to believe she was pushed out the door as she paints - when the season winds down lockers are vacated. If she would have wanted to stay and approached Bill I am certain she would have had the same consideration any would have gotten. Poor communication rationalized into a slightly acrid exit. I really liked how Nikki put it together her last season: but a more gracious exit, and leaving the door open to finish her degree at ISU, if the WNBA didn't pan out would have shown me growth rather than the status quo.
 

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I believe there's another side to every story including this one. I don't think BF would rush to clean players' locker room after the season. And it's interesting to figure out: did Pop, Lacey, etc still got lockers when they graduated or were they just welcomed to practice without having a dedicated locker room?

Anyone ever recall a player suspended under BF? I can only recall Melissa Youngblut several seasons ago and that was because she was involved in altercation off campus.

I agree with another poster that it's not wise to distance herself from ISU. Although BF never goes to the Final Four, I think BF was respected in the coaching community. I recall talking to Cheryl Reeve, Minnesota Lynx HC, she said 'wow, Iowa State? They attracted tons of people to the game there"
 

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I respect the job the Bill has done - my sister played for Teresa Becker before Bill so I know this is one of the most amazing turn-arounds in college sports. That being said, I am ready for Bill to pass the torch. Have just heard too many stories of late. Serious temper issues that sound like they are getting worse.
 

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She was suspended after a couple visits from recruits..... I wonder if Moody sabotaged the situation and set a bad example

Coicidently, Iowa got a couple good committments last fall that ISU was after. she's sounds a little toxic to me
 

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I respect the job the Bill has done - my sister played for Teresa Becker before Bill so I know this is one of the most amazing turn-arounds in college sports. That being said, I am ready for Bill to pass the torch. Have just heard too many stories of late. Serious temper issues that sound like they are getting worse.

Far from it. He's toned down severely over the past couple of years.
 

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Who are the big three coming in next year?

Bridget Carlson, T.T. Starks, and Meredith Burkhall... Carlson played for the Canadian National team, TT was listed as the number one player in Minnesota by many polls, and Burkhall was the best player coming out high school in Iowa last year. This could be the best class that BF has had in the last 10 years. One or more could start and all three should be in the rotation next season.
 
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I respect the job the Bill has done - my sister played for Teresa Becker before Bill so I know this is one of the most amazing turn-arounds in college sports. That being said, I am ready for Bill to pass the torch. Have just heard too many stories of late. Serious temper issues that sound like they are getting worse.

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I'm disappointed that things ended this way, but not really surprised. It was obvious, especially this last year that the relationship between Moody and BF was not good, and I think that affected the team play overall. Too bad they could not work out their differences. There just was no consistency on this year's team.

I look at Nikki as being to the women's team what BDJ was to the men's team. A good player, but disruptive to the overall chemistry of the team, and most interested in his/her own personal success than anything else. I think both teams will be better off with out those players next year.

I don't know if it is time for BF to go.....it seems he is signing as recruits as good (if not better) as he has ever signed....but so far it is not translating to any real success on the court. I'm not sure if it is BF who is responsible for the recruits, or the rest of his staff. If it is primarily the rest of the staff.....then maybe it is time to move on.
 
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That's too bad. I wish her the best of luck in the NBA, but I said on more than one occasion this season that I would not be disappointed when she played her last game. Too much extremes, both on the court and off it seems.
 

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... ....but so far it is not translating to any real success on the court. ....

You post a lot and support the team, so I know you're well-informed. I'm not sure why you'd make a statement like this that is rather extreme.

The wins against top 5 teams this year alone? Even though it was up and down, there was an article in which BF said that was somewhat by design.

How many straight NCAA tourneys?

The team has not gone as far of late, but has also had tough draws in recent years. This year, we played Dayton tight, who went on to play UConn tight (for a half). Dayton also had 2 WNBA draft picks. To me, that is success on the court. The final coaches poll put us around #30, that says there was respect for what the team did this year.

All of this when recruiting took a dip and thus was done with less talent than we have now and coming in.
 

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You post a lot and support the team, so I know you're well-informed. I'm not sure why you'd make a statement like this that is rather extreme.

The wins against top 5 teams this year alone? Even though it was up and down, there was an article in which BF said that was somewhat by design.

How many straight NCAA tourneys?

The team has not gone as far of late, but has also had tough draws in recent years. This year, we played Dayton tight, who went on to play UConn tight (for a half). Dayton also had 2 WNBA draft picks. To me, that is success on the court. The final coaches poll put us around #30, that says there was respect for what the team did this year.

All of this when recruiting took a dip and thus was done with less talent than we have now and coming in.

I don't know - I kind of agree that the results have not been there as of late. The wins against Texas came at a time where they were in a downwards spiral. The win against Baylor came after they just lost and were out of the #1 seed conversation, also they had already won the Big 12.

I really don't think that they were a tournament team this year. I really don't think they deserved to be in the tourney in 2012 and 2014 either. I think they just got the benefit of hosting those years. Both years saw first round exits on our home court too.
 

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I don't know - I kind of agree that the results have not been there as of late. The wins against Texas came at a time where they were in a downwards spiral. The win against Baylor came after they just lost and were out of the #1 seed conversation, also they had already won the Big 12.

I really don't think that they were a tournament team this year. I really don't think they deserved to be in the tourney in 2012 and 2014 either. I think they just got the benefit of hosting those years. Both years saw first round exits on our home court too.

We have high standards. We should. But we should also not take for granted the success that has been reached on a consistent basis.

I'll mention again that we could have beat Dayton. That in itself says we deserved to be there. Dayton beat top 10 teams. Dayton had 2 WNBA draft picks. Dayton led UConn at the half. With the exception of a short stretch, we played with Dayton.

While we all want more, it is sad if we don't appreciate the success we have been having on a consistent basis. There are many, many programs out there that give fans very little to get excited about. ISU used to be one of those programs.
 

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I don't know - I kind of agree that the results have not been there as of late. The wins against Texas came at a time where they were in a downwards spiral. The win against Baylor came after they just lost and were out of the #1 seed conversation, also they had already won the Big 12.

I really don't think that they were a tournament team this year. I really don't think they deserved to be in the tourney in 2012 and 2014 either. I think they just got the benefit of hosting those years. Both years saw first round exits on our home court too.

I am in line with this.

We are 18-18 in conference the last two years and have played really no one of note outside of conference other than Iowa. That's fairly average. Nothing to hang our head about but also nothing that merits fans or the department crowing about how great we are. Squeaking into the NCAA was better than being outside looking in but still nothing other than box checking stuff like "years out of years" or "years in a row". In hoops making the NCAA is a pass/fail but A's and B's require winning some of the those games. We have great fan support, great home atmosphere and a couple nice NCAA runs in our annual appearances but I am kinda past thinking we are more than that.

Just my own step-back opinion not tainted by Cyclone sunglasses. Doesn't mean I am not really interested in how the freshman will do next year or how a hopefully healthy Jadda will play or that I am not hoping someone in the soph class is ready to take a big step up.
 

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You post a lot and support the team, so I know you're well-informed. I'm not sure why you'd make a statement like this that is rather extreme.

The wins against top 5 teams this year alone? Even though it was up and down, there was an article in which BF said that was somewhat by design.

How many straight NCAA tourneys?

The team has not gone as far of late, but has also had tough draws in recent years. This year, we played Dayton tight, who went on to play UConn tight (for a half). Dayton also had 2 WNBA draft picks. To me, that is success on the court. The final coaches poll put us around #30, that says there was respect for what the team did this year.

All of this when recruiting took a dip and thus was done with less talent than we have now and coming in.

I said any REAL success. Yes, they beat some highly ranked teams, including Texas both home and away, but they also lost to some teams that they should not have lost to (Kansas twice, Texas Tech .....there was no consistency at all in their performance, imho. I think most ISU fans had a hard time understanding (and accepting) that a team that could beat Texas twice would also lose to Kansas twice.

I don't see where the recruiting has dropped off. In fact, I think in the last couple of years, it has been as good as almost any of BF's years here. I am concerned about some of the players who have left the program the last couple of years, with no real explanation given to the public, imo. Now, we are losing another one this year....who, let's be honest, was never really given a chance to develop. One who I think really wanted to be here. I mean seriously, she couldn't have gotten at least a few minutes in some of those early cupcake games? Playing in 2 games for a total of 5 minutes in a 31 game season.....who wouldn't want to transfer?

What I do see over the last couple of years is that many players are not developing much any more. I think Pop, Anna, and Hallie (out of necessity) were the last players that really improved much from year to year. I thought ISU was headed for great things when I first saw Brynn, Kidd, Nikki and others play, I thought.....man....ISU is really going to be strong in years to come......but it never materialized. OK......yes.....competitive......most of the time, but not always, but not as strong as I thought they would be by the time some of those players were seniors. In fact I would say some (Brynn) might have regressed, or at least stayed at the same level at best.

Yes, ISU fans expect more with success. Why shouldn't they? That is human nature. I hope that ISU fans never get to the point to accept mediocrity once they have reached success with a program. ISU fans support women's athletics probably as well as 95 percent of the rest of the schools in Division I. I see nothing wrong with expecting those programs to deliver a well above average product.
 
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