New Cy-Hawk Trophy?

[rebecacy]

Alright, I did a quick search through the forums and don't really see a thread like this one. If there is one, my bad.

Anyway, so I remember talking about this with a few friends during the previous Iowa-Iowa State game and we all came to the not so original conclusion that the Cy-Hawk Trophy is ugly and seems really cheap (I remember the football looking like it was about to fall off when the trophy was being lifted). I mean, it's no Land Grant trophy...http://blogs.mcall.com/.a/6a00d8341c4fe353ef0120a6b01508970b-320wi (what IS that?!)

Here's the current trophy...

I'll admit that I don't know the design history of the trophy, so these are my personal views. The wooden box is a standard base for a trophy, though it could probably be upgraded. What gets me though are the figures on top. You have the skinny looking football player doing the stiff-arm pose. Okay, that's fine, I suppose, though he doesn't look like much of a football player. But just in case people didn't know it was a football trophy, they threw the giant football in there to really drive home the message.

Personally, I'd like to see the figures up top replaced with the two mascots, facing off. Herky in his uppercut pose and Cy sitting in his cyclone. Or if you really wanted to be creative, you'd have the two rolling up their sleeves, getting ready for a fight. Either way, the Cy-Hawk trophy shouldn't just have the namesakes in tiny images on the side.

Another alternative that would probably be classier, would be to have two statuettes of Jack Trice and Nile Kinnick. Trice was ISU's first African-American athlete and Jack Trice is the only stadium named after an African-American (only 1-A). Kinnick was Iowa's sole Heisman Trophy winner and Kinnick Stadium is the only stadium named after a Heisman winner. Both young men were taken much too early; Trice playing for his team, and Kinnick while serving his country.

Thoughts?

Worked are ***** off to win that trophy and you nit-wits want to replace it -- find something else to ***** about but leave that trophy alone -- it means a lot to a lot of cyclones.

 

[edr247]

Worked are ***** off to win that trophy and you nit-wits want to replace it -- find something else to ***** about but leave that trophy alone -- it means a lot to a lot of cyclones.

Really? What about THAT trophy means a lot to the Cyclones? The basic wooden base? The small plaque thingies lazily attached? The Pop Warner style pieces up on top, like the football that is this close to falling off?

I'm not saying get rid of the concept of a Cy-Hawk Trophy. I'm saying replace this ugly one and get something nicer befitting the fiercest rivalry in the state. What's wrong with at least getting a trophy with Cy and Herky facing off? Or a classy one with Jack Trice and Nile Kinnick? Hell, it could be something as simple as replica ISU and Iowa helmets on top of the wooden base.

Again, the trophy isn't the object of the game. Sure, we run to the sidelines to get it, but the trophy doesn't hold some sort of myth, like previously mentioned examples of the Little Brown Jug, Floyd of Rosedale, or the Telephone Trophy.

 

[CYKT]

Worked are ***** off to win that trophy and you nit-wits want to replace it -- find something else to ***** about but leave that trophy alone -- it means a lot to a lot of cyclones.

Let 'em have it "girl!" Another insightful post!

 

[rebecacy]

Really? What about THAT trophy means a lot to the Cyclones? The basic wooden base? The small plaque thingies lazily attached? The Pop Warner style pieces up on top, like the football that is this close to falling off?

I'm not saying get rid of the concept of a Cy-Hawk Trophy. I'm saying replace this ugly one and get something nicer befitting the fiercest rivalry in the state. What's wrong with at least getting a trophy with Cy and Herky facing off? Or a classy one with Jack Trice and Nile Kinnick? Hell, it could be something as simple as replica ISU and Iowa helmets on top of the wooden base.

Again, the trophy isn't the object of the game. Sure, we run to the sidelines to get it, but the trophy doesn't hold some sort of myth, like previously mentioned examples of the Little Brown Jug, Floyd of Rosedale, or the Telephone Trophy.

You have no concept of how that "ugly" trophy has been used in the locker room, in recruiting and for personal player motivation. As an example, one year iowa took all their wins and put the little plates on the front of the trophy and all our wins on the ends... upside down --- that piece of wood that you think is so ugly is a key part of ISU FB player history. But you will never understand that because all you see is the run to the sideline after the game. Ignorance is bliss.

 

[CPRsavedMYlife]

The need for a new Cy-Hawk trophy might be the only thing that most Clone and Hawk fans can agree on.

I am also a big fan of a Trice-Kinnick statue. I think that would have more tradition than the current Cy-Hawk trophy that looks like it was purchased at a garage sale.

 

[CYkodelic]

about the only recent football thread worse than this one is the one about some screwy sign language hand sign and creating pseudo-faux "traditions".

right up front: DON'T TOUCH THE TROPHY. heck yes it's an ugly trophy, but so is a big bronze pig, an old telephone, or some old, half-rotten wooden bucket and a lot more "trophy game" trophies. but players play their hearts out and fans cheer their a$$es off because of the rivalry, NOT because anyone's thinking, "oh, boy, what a purty trophy."

i know a plethora of former ISU players who literally would go to blows to keep the trophy they worked so hard to get from having a facelift just so some whiny ***** fans who attach too much of their self esteem to an inanimate symbol can feel better about its, and their, aesthetics. if you don't like it, go become an interior decorator!

final point: that ugly ***** trophy never looks more beautiful than in our trophy case.

 

[rebecacy]

The need for a new Cy-Hawk trophy might be the only thing that most Clone and Hawk fans can agree on.

I am also a big fan of a Trice-Kinnick statue. I think that would have more tradition than the current Cy-Hawk trophy that looks like it was purchased at a garage sale.

Agree and wish all you want -- the fans have no say in this one. The trophy is for the players, it has an important and well respected tradition and it won't be changed.

 

[ItsCyence]

You have no concept of how that "ugly" trophy has been used in the locker room, in recruiting and for personal player motivation. As an example, one year iowa took all their wins and put the little plates on the front of the trophy and all our wins on the ends... upside down --- that piece of wood that you think is so ugly is a key part of ISU FB player history. But you will never understand that because all you see is the run to the sideline after the game. Ignorance is bliss.

Thats why the wins should be etched onto the trophy like the Paul Bunyan Axe (my favorite trophy in CFB).

 

[Cyclonick182]

Let 'em have it "girl!" Another insightful post!

Do tell me what about that was insightful? Looked to me like another self righteous fan trying to put others in their place. :no:

 

[edr247]

Why would players not get excited and take pride in and fight for a new trophy? One that actually symbolizes the Battle for Iowa (sorry UNI)?

 

[CYKT]

Why would players not get excited and take pride in and fight for a new trophy? One that actually symbolizes the Battle for Iowa (sorry UNI)?

You won't win a fight with RebecaCy He/She is always right! Just ask Him/Her!

 

[CYkodelic]

Why would players not get excited and take pride in and fight for a new trophy? One that actually symbolizes the Battle for Iowa (sorry UNI)?

you really don't get it. go tell your wife that you think her wedding ring is ugly and she should get a new one. then let me know how that goes.

 

[CtownCyclone]

you really don't get it. go tell your wife that you think her wedding ring is ugly and she should get a new one. then let me know how that goes.

I am told that works really well if you present her with a newer, prettier, shinier wedding ring.:wink:

 

[edr247]

you really don't get it. go tell your wife that you think her wedding ring is ugly and she should get a new one. then let me know how that goes.

Not married, but if the current one was a cheap, 2 dollar plastic one I found at a yard sale and the new one was a better looking gold one that actually symbolized our relationship, you don't think she would go for it? Plus it's not like I'm necessarily throwing the old one in the garbage or something. I could put it in a nice class case and have a card saying that it was the old one and it's been retired. Not that hard.

I'm not saying the current trophy doesn't mean anything. But I don't see why a nicer one that has something to do with Iowa and Iowa State on the top wouldn't mean as much as the current one.

Trophies have changed in rivalries, and the rivalries haven't diminished in anyway. The Badgers and Gophers still fight as hard for the Axe as they did for the Slab of Bacon. And while it's only a year old, I don't think Northwestern players won't fight as hard for the 'Land of Lincoln Trophy' as they would the old 'Sweet Sioux Tomahawk'.

 

[Cy Hard]

So no one knows the story of how a Ames resident&ISU fan created the trophy back when the rivalry was being renewed and as he thought needed a trophy? Say what you want about it, but at least it is our trophy (created by a Cyclone). No EIU fan can say that. Don't ruin the tradition of a 'nobody' making a mark in the collegiate game.

 

[edr247]

So no one knows the story of how a Ames resident&ISU fan created the trophy back when the rivalry was being renewed and as he thought needed a trophy? Say what you want about it, but at least it is our trophy (created by a Cyclone). No EIU fan can say that. Don't ruin the tradition of a 'nobody' making a mark in the collegiate game.

It was created by a Cyclone? NO WONDER IT'S SO FRIGGIN UGLY!! :tongue:

To be honest, the only thing I knew about the origin was that it was donated by The Greater Des Moines Athletic Club, which apparently doesn't exist anymore.

“It’s my recollection that it was just a bunch of guys sitting around a bar one night, and they decided the teams ought to play for something,” said Buck Turnbull, a sportswriter who covered Iowa college athletics for 41 years (1952-1993) at the Des Moines Register.
“So they dreamed up this Cy-Hawk Trophy. I’ve only seen it from a distance, but I don’t think it’s much too look at.”

Cy-Hawk talk | GazetteOnline.com


Yeah, it's the Morehouse. Yeah, it's the Gazette. Yeah, it's biased. Get over it.

 

[CyForPresident]

Well, the Cy-Hawk trophy is going to have to be retired at some point. We will eventually run out of space for the scores of each game. Plus, people carrying the thing around and partying with it, is hard on it. It will eventually just need to be retired due to age. See the football almost falling off.

A new trophy will be needed at some point. Now is as good a time as ever.

 

[alarson]

Well, the Cy-Hawk trophy is going to have to be retired at some point. We will eventually run out of space for the scores of each game. Plus, people carrying the thing around and partying with it, is hard on it. It will eventually just need to be retired due to age. See the football almost falling off.

A new trophy will be needed at some point. Now is as good a time as ever.

Agreed.

Additionally, yes, theres been a lot of work gone into getting the existing trophy over the years. But sometimes you have to move forward. Just like we progressed forward out of Clyde Williams and the Armory into Jack Trice and Hilton, where there was just as much put in in those facilities by our players, there is a time to move on. The cy-hawk trophy is long overdue for this.

 

[rebecacy]

Agreed.

Additionally, yes, theres been a lot of work gone into getting the existing trophy over the years. But sometimes you have to move forward. Just like we progressed forward out of Clyde Williams and the Armory into Jack Trice and Hilton, where there was just as much put in in those facilities by our players, there is a time to move on. The cy-hawk trophy is long overdue for this.

So "Floyd of Rosedale or the Old Oaken Bucket. etc, etc.," will be retired because "sometimes you have to move forward" ............I don't think so.

 

[rebecacy]

You won't win a fight with RebecaCy He/She is always right! Just ask Him/Her!

HUMMMMMMMM ....... 2 posts, both direct attacks at me - Is that you @@( :biglaugh: